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      <![CDATA[You're the one that brought it up and told untruths. <br>
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      <![CDATA[ABC, the voters certainly got over whatever problems Sound Transit had. <br />
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I suggest you do the same.
        
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      <![CDATA[From Nov. 2000 :"The agency's governing board learned Thursday that the rail system's tunnel through Seattle would cost at least $728 million--$171 million more than the $557 million budgeted. The board demanded a list of changes that could reduce the cost."<br>
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The tunnel is now $2 billion<br>
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From Nov. 2001:Some opponents are contemplating legal action to block the project. But King County Councilman Rob McKenna, R-Bellevue, one of the two "no" votes, predicted the line will be built.<br>
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The $2.1 billion project still must secure $500 million in needed federal funding.  (project is now at $2.8 billion)<br>
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And Sound Transit must negotiate a new agreement with King County to run trains through the county-owned downtown Seattle bus tunnel.<br>
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"They're hurdles," McKenna said, "but they're hurdles the agency can overcome."<br>
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      <![CDATA[If you consider QUADRUPLING the nominal dollar cost and DOUBLING  the time then yes they are on  time and on budget.<br>
Actually the price went up substantially from 2001 but why deal with details.<br>
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Did Mckenna actually suggest the project should be killed or did he suggest that since the project was so different than what we voted for, perhaps more evaluation and honesty should be used?<br>
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Oh and BTW you're the one that brought up ST.
        
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      <![CDATA[ABC, yes rail transit isn't cheap like more buses are. It's expensive because we have to build new right-of-way. Buses run on existing streets and highways and are subject to all the congestion and accidents that impact those facilities. <br />
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Oh yes, we could build exclusive new lanes for buses and HOVs, for so-called Bus Rapid Transit, but then the costs would be in the same stratosphere as light rail.<br />
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Rob McKenna's "solution" was to simply kill the project and with it the agency. His vision of the future was all negative.<br />
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And it amazes me to STILL hear whining about Sound Transit's cost estimating problems from TEN YEARS AGO! Wake up! The region's voters gave Sound Transit a large Vote of Confidence last November.<br />
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Why? Because Sound Transit fixed its problems -- in November 2001 the board adopted a budget and schedule for the initial segment of Link light rail, the one that opens next weekend -- ON TIME AND ON BUDGET. Most people recognize success when they see it, instead of living in the past. They've moved on, and gave Sound Transit their blessing to build more light rail transit.
        
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      <![CDATA[ABC, would you rather we have no mass transit?  I'm sick of Seattle being a complete joke mass-transit-wise.  The West Coast of the US needs better options, and Light Rail is about 1/3 of the improvements we really need just to catch up to the rest of the worlds large cities.
        
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      <![CDATA[#2 - Rob was the only doubter of the program on the ST board.  He was the only one that saw that the project would be billions over budget.  He recognized commitments being made by the board that exposed the agency to huge cost overruns.<br>
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Go back and read the pre Tuck Wilson statements by ST and their board members.  I think Tuck's words were something like - this time we added up ALL the numbers in the spreadsheet and we are $1.2 billion over budget.<br>
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Spending $7 billion, not counting finance charges, to get from Sea-Tac to Roosevelt 10 years late could be reasonably argued to be a bad investment.<br>
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McKenna was the only one that spoke the truth about what was happening. Should he have just gone along with lies being told because light rail at any cost is a good thing?
        
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      <![CDATA[And remember, if Rob McKenna had his way, when he was on the Sound Transit board of directors, we would not be opening light rail transit next weekend. <br />
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McKenna worked very hard, in concert with East Side highway interests, to destroy the light rail project and leave the entire region with only bus transit. <br />
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Thankfully, he failed.
        
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