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      <title>Comments On: No More Rye Impostors
    
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      <![CDATA[Judge should have allowed publication and then let Salinger sue for royalties and damages. Prior restraint: BAD.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't really see that the blocking of the book is "celebrated" in the Times article.<br />
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And if Salinger wants to protect his copyright, why the hell not?  Why should he have to have unauthorized sequels to his work if he doesn't want them?  <br />
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He could have gone the other way, though.  The Nabokov estate allowed publication of LOLITA'S DIARY, on the condition that half of the profits be paid to them.
        
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      <![CDATA[although now that I read more about the book that's being banned.....
        
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    <author><![CDATA[I have always been... east coaster]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[This is an abuse of copyright. This book would not have taken away from sales of Catcher, and therefore it should have been allowed. Copyright law needs to be reformed to make clear that it protects only an author's right to make money off his/her work and not the right to tell other writers what they can and can't do with their brains.
        
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      <![CDATA[Quite apart from the out-of-whack copyright system, if the Swedish author had really done something new and innovative, then maybe his work would have passed the copyright test (cf. "The Wind Done Gone"). But, like most "art" produced from the comfort of a welfare state utopia, the Swedish author's book failed that test miserably. The judge ruled correctly.
        
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      <![CDATA[And I thought this post was going to be about your frustration with shitty bread.
        
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      <![CDATA[@10, Correctamundo.  Disney made it's fortune from the public domain, and now refuses to give back.  Fuck them.<br />
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@6, Show me one "original" thing, and I'll show you how it is actually dependant on someone else's previous creative effort.<br />
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@4, I'm well aware of copyright laws, AND how anti-creative-cultural-evolution they actually are.  <br />
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@7, Or perhaps change the name to D. J. Sackofshit... <i>:D</i>
        
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      <![CDATA[@6: Ironically, Disney, which has done most of the lobbying to get the copyright laws to be as restrictive as they are now, built their fortunes by borrowing characters and stories from other works. Would you have the same advice for them, that they go come up with their own ideas and stop recycling stories?
        
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      <![CDATA[I'd enjoy it if this author decided to distribute it for free as a gigantic fuck you to Salinger.  Since he's not going to be getting any money out of this whole deal, why not add to his notoriety and fame now, and develop buzz for whatever books he may write in the future?
        
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      <![CDATA[Nono, the Swede is guilty, but not of copyright infringement.  He's guilty of thinking that such a shitty, overplayed, poorly executed crapfest like 'The Catcher in the Rye' is in any way relevant in any shape or form to anyone other than aging baby boomers or fans of a dumb Mel Gibson movie.  Seriously, anyone past the age of 15 who still fawns over this book is probably emotionally stunted and keeps it on the shelf right between Khalil Gibran and Nietzsche for Dummies.
        
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      <![CDATA[what an asshole salinger is being, the swedish guy should just change the name by a few letters (eg Colden Haulfield) and publish it anyways. <br />
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I agree with the analogy to remixes and sampling. This should be considered fair use, maybe just put a disclaimer that it was not authorized by the original creator of the character or something.
        
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      <![CDATA[Perhaps the Swedish author can come up with his own ideas instead of piggybacking on an established and famous author.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think it's dumb to block the publication. Either:<br />
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1) The book sells and is good, in which case there is a renewed interest in Catcher that makes it more relevant than its current position in 20th C canon, or<br />
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2) The book sucks and it goes away and no more is heard from it. <br />
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I hope that our young Swede starts right in on the sequel to Moby Dick. There's plenty to steal from Ishmael, and it's in the public domain.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ 1 Try reading up on copyright laws.  <br>
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You would have to pay the person that owns the master recording rights to James Brown's beats to sample them and anonymous work can be ripped off without paying because it's anonymous and in your example part of the public domain due to it's date of publication as is "The Wizard of Oz."  <br>
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There's creative freedom and then there is infringing on another artist's right to earn income off their characters and work.  This seems to be a case of the later to me. <br>
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Sidebar:  Doesn't Holden Caulfield kill himself at the end of the original book in question?
        
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      <![CDATA[I have no idea what it <i>does</i> feel like, but I can certainly agree that it <i>would</i> feel very weird to celebrate something like that, yes.
        
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      <![CDATA[It's not too late to pen a screenplay for a JD Salinger/Michael Eisner buddy movie.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think Salinger has a stick up his ass, and banning this book is a strike against creative freedom.  <br />
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Exactly how is writing a new book about a 76-year-old Holden Caufield dissimilar from sampling a James Brown beat AND an anonymous 17th C poem to record Sinéad O'Connor's "I Am Stretched On Your Grave"?  Or borrowing a rhythm track from one song to make a brand new song in Reggae culture?  Or even the many "toasting versions" of reggae songs out there?  Or writing a new book called "Wicked" about a young Elphaba, the Wicked Witch of the West?  <br />
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Mix, mix, remix... that's how culture evolves.
        
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