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    <author><![CDATA[Gomez]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[You have to be pretty out of touch yourself to get into a situation where you can't afford food while owning a car and living in an expensive apartment.
        
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      <![CDATA[Uhem "move to another neighborhood"? If you can barely afford food you can hardly afford first+last+deposit to move. Out of touch much?
        
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      <![CDATA[Um, maybe sell the car or move to a more car-friendly neighborhood if owning one's that important and your margin for error's that thin?<br />
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I mean... you managed to come out of it okay doing it your way, but that doesn't mean it was a good idea... as all the resulting parking tickets indicates.
        
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      <![CDATA[@23: I racked up tickets when I was at my poorest and living in a neighborhood with zoned parking.  My grocery budget was $30 a month and I honestly couldn't afford to buy the zone permit for about 6 months.  I did my best to move my car every so often, but it racked up a few tickets when it broke down and I couldn't move it or even pay someone to haul it away.<br />
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When I finally got on my feet I paid the tickets off, fixed up the car and become a solid, upright citizen again.  But don't hate, brother, 'til you've walked a mile in someone else's shoes.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't have a ton of sympathy for people who can't park and pay for it responsibly, or people who let their tickets sit unpaid.  If parking legally is a challenge, take the bus or a cab.<br />
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Given how much some of you are paying for tickets, you might actually save a few bucks if you took cabs instead.
        
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      <![CDATA[@18: I think it's perfectly reasonable to go ahead and spend another $30 on a decent bottle of booze to drown your sorrows in.  That is the SUCK.
        
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      <![CDATA[@15 Keshmeshi...<br />
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These Chariots can go as fast as 25 mph (that's a special order model) but I think they typically clock them to about 12 mph. But, I doubt they can hop a curb too well. In fact, I'll bet a Mountain Bike can go lots of places that one of these things can't go. Including up and down stairs.<br />
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The "sell" on them is that it improves community policing by getting police out among people rather than sitting in their car. I can believe that. But, as I said, a Mountain Bike can do the same thing.<br />
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Bikes...no matter how far technology advances, that invention will be with us forever.
        
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      <![CDATA[How much did ECB save?
        
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      <![CDATA[ouch, had you beat. $925 :(<br />
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forgot about a driving without insurance ticket. Even though I had insurance at the time, the guy on the phone said it's too late to dispute it. I think that's the most money i've ever burnt for no particular reason.
        
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      <![CDATA[I just wish that police vehicles, mini parking patrol cars, segways and chariots had to park legally like everyone else.
        
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      <![CDATA[wow, I saw a ticket cop on one of these, she must have weighed in at 300 lbs and could really use some excercize. just sayin'. a please get this crap off the sidewalks, she nearly ran me down, is it really so necessary?
        
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      <![CDATA[@12,<br />
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Huh.  Well that doesn't make any sense.  How fast do those things go anyway?  Is it possible to outrun them?  That would be hilarious.
        
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      <![CDATA[i have never understood people who complain about parking tickets.  when you park like an asshole, you get a ticket like an asshole.  if you can't handle parking, ride a bike or take a bus.<br />
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whatever you do, don't take it out on the parking cops, since, after all, it's <i>your own damn fault.</i>
        
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      <![CDATA[that looks like a rainy day. we used to have those.
        
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      <![CDATA[@10...sure. These Chariots are being used for general policing work in addition to usage by meter maids.
        
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      <![CDATA[Parking enforcement isn't ALLOWED to chase down bad guys.<br />
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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people? Park legally. If you don't, and you get caught, PAY YOUR FUCKING FINE ALREADY.
        
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      <![CDATA[@5,<br />
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I'm going to assume that parking enforcement rarely has to chase down any bad guys.
        
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      <![CDATA[IRS + Guns = Police
        
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      <![CDATA[Done!  Thanks for the reminder.  I had forgotten all about this.
        
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      <![CDATA[@5, would you expect anything less than the least efficient, most expensive, least effective option from a highly unionized police organization in an extremely left leaning city?
        
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      <![CDATA[Hang on to proof that you paid those off.  I let some tickets go to collections once, and then 9 years after I paid them off one showed up as delinquent on my credit report.  I'm guessing the agency had sold the debt to another agency and some data went conveniently (for them) astray.<br />
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Of course I protested it and didn't have to pay, but still. It was a major pain in the ass.<br />
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As an aside: $625?  That's impressive!  I think I woulda skipped town instead.
        
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      <![CDATA[This fetish that police have for the Segway and the T3 (the Chariot) baffles me. These are extremely expensive vehicles that seem, in my opinion, to do no better than a cop on a Mountain Bike. The chariot begins around $9k, I believe. I'm sure maintenance and batteries and all the bells and whistles push it much higher than that. I'm guessing the Mountain Bikes that cops ride are about 1/10th of that, easier to maintain, and keep our cops in better physical condition when they have to dismount to chase a bad guy.
        
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      <![CDATA[I asked a police officer about those one time.  She said they don't using like them.  They are deemed more efficient and are required to use them.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[one day I will make them all pay]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[It should not be a crime to kill parking enforcement personnel. Just sayin'.
        
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          Posted by one day I will make them all pay]]>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:32:29 -0700</pubDate> 
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