http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/06/16/ccs-slaughtered Comments On: C.C.'s Slaughtered? by Dominic Holden en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:45:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by Daddy Jeff]]> Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:20:51 -0700 The Stranger
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Posted by NumberOne]]> Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:34:25 -0700 The Stranger Posted by reverend dr dj riz]]> Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:12:01 -0700 The Stranger ...marshal's office,daddy's,eastlake east, axelrock, spag's , sonya's ( the old one ), george's
( well that one was on the hill but still...
made myself feel old too...
Posted by reverend dr dj riz]]> Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:10:51 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Amber the Enviro]]> Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:44:48 -0700 The Stranger Fuck that, I just made myself feel old as hell
Posted by Dax]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:37:32 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Jakey]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:38:17 -0700 The Stranger
I would much prefer 50 smaller gay bars, each with its own flavor, over 5 mega-gay bars all fighting for the trashy tabloid crowds!

If The Cuff went back to what it was for the first decade I might go back to patronizing the place.
Posted by Cap Hill Sold Out 10 Years Ago]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:28 -0700 The Stranger
Soon the only place left for us to go drink will be Neighbours, there has been rumor's of it being closed as well.. What is this world coming tooo????
Posted by Shaun D.]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:50:48 -0700 The Stranger
I feel like the gay scene on Capitol Hill was one of the biggest factors in this neighborhoods gentrification. That was the start of its nightlife scene and the reason it even became a destination. I'm sure there are lots of old-timers who don't use the internet much who were pissed when the quiet hill neighborhood started having nightlife back in the '80's.

Also, if gay bars had any real market, they would still be popping up. Unfortunately homosexuality isn't as distinct of a scene anymore.Not that we shouldn't still be fighting for equality still but if a bar is happening, gays and straights alike are probably going to go there, regardless of its sexual flavor. I think that is EXACTLY why you are seeing all of the Cap. Hill holdouts falling one by one. They are no longer getting the draw they once were and as they inform their landowners about this, the landowner decides to sell instead of find another tenant.

Its incredibly doubtful that a gay-bar scene will pop-up in any of Seattle's poorer neighborhoods. As I recall from some survey, the highest concentration of self-identified gay people in Seattle is in Magnolia.
Posted by JoshMahar]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:30:31 -0700 The Stranger - The new 1111 Pike Building that is just being finished on Pike St. Looks nice, fits in between some pretty old buildings, and will have a nice little retail space.

- The Brix. Many people don't like this building but the retail has been a huge success and its a pleasant building to walk by that really engages the street nicely.

- 2200 in SLU. Add a nice staircase and mini-public plaza amenity and the Whole Foods there has a pretty cool little balcony. I like it.

- The Gallery in Belltown was a good historic renovation although the retail has yet to flourish.

- Wallingford Steps is an incredibly cute building that has a nice little public staircase down to Gasworks with various retail spaces.

- The Harbor Steps was a great project with lots of cool spaces.

Just a few that I personally like.

I don't understand why people are so upset. As the city gets cooler, more people want to live here, and land value goes up, thus, property taxes go up. C.C. Attle's small one-story building and a parking lot make a very, very small sum compared to what could be there, which is what they are taxed for. It is inevitable that they will no longer be able to afford that location and LUCKILY a really interesting Foundation with plans for a VERY interesting building came in to develop it.

I feel like the gay scene on Capitol Hill was one of the biggest factors in this neighborhoods gentrification. That was the start of its nightlife scene and the reason it even became a destination. I'm sure there are lots of old-timers who don't use the internet much who were pissed when the quiet hill neighborhood started having nightlife back in the '80's.

Also, if gay bars had any real market, they would still be popping up. Unfortunately homosexuality isn't as distinct of a scene anymore.Not that we shouldn't still be fighting for equality still but if a bar is happening, gays and straights alike are probably going to go there, regardless of its sexual flavor. I think that is EXACTLY why you are seeing all of the Cap. Hill holdouts falling one by one. They are no longer getting the draw they once were and as they inform their landowners about this, the landowner decides to sell instead of find another tenant.

Its incredibly doubtful that a gay-bar scene will pop-up in any of Seattle's poorer neighborhoods. As I recall from some survey, the highest concentration of self-identified gay people in Seattle is in Magnolia.
Posted by JoshMahar]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:29:49 -0700 The Stranger
Real neighborhood bars tend to have loud music on the weekends, but they not stupid loud like a dance club. So, many of them seem like boring dead bars, but their intent is a place to go with friends to talk and laugh and drink.
Dance clubs will always have to move when the neighbors bitch. It's just the way it is. Best to plant things like that in the industrial areas, if zoning permits. But then what about it being walkable?
REAL music venues are really going to get the shaft, and soon. Small live music clubs like Neumos will get bitched out as soon as those horrific Trace apartments start selling to old people. Which they will.
A place like CC's is different isn't it? Not REALLY loud music. But loud people in outside space too close to the neighbors. I don't see why CC's couldn't move to any corner-of-a-building bar with condos above and be perfectly fine. Keep it conversational (Madison Pub) and use the sidewalk space appropriately.

Posted by Sparkplug]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:09:09 -0700 The Stranger
I'd like to see a new Eagle in one of those industrial spaces down by the SoDo station. Halfway between the station and Fastfood Row.
Posted by Baconcat]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:56:07 -0700 The Stranger
But, they sure have more room for demos.
Posted by TheMisanthrope]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:30:57 -0700 The Stranger
This means that eventually no neighborhhood will welcome bars, clubs, or performance venues.

Neighborhood development plans should always identify at least a block or two where residential buildings are de-emphasized or prohibited.
Posted by BugFruit]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:19:14 -0700 The Stranger
Maybe we'll get a real eagle out of the deal and not a black hallway covered in chain link fencing.
Posted by Baconcat]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:14:20 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Will in Seattle]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:58:43 -0700 The Stranger Posted by HipsterBear]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:43:50 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Weekilter]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:49:26 -0700 The Stranger