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      <![CDATA[I'm glad Julie In Eugene doesn't write movie scripts. Her "better" version of Up would have been quite redundant.
        
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      <![CDATA[I saw it with a friend last night and was disappointed in how they treated the guy who helped bring their world talking dogs.  Surely there was more to his story than that. =\
        
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      <![CDATA[@22, 23:<br />
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**More spoilers**<br />
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I'd also add that Muntz is pretty menacing. Even I was kind of terrified of how evil he was. Example: When he more or less threw Russell, tied to a chair, off the ship.
        
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      <![CDATA[@12: Finding Nemo? Hmm. I finally, *finally* saw it last week and I wasn't really blown away by the story or even the characters. Can anyone try and sell their case to me? I've been wondering what the rhubarb was about. <br />
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The Incredibles is my boyfriend's very close second to Up; If my favourite wasn't Up, it'd be Monsters Inc.
        
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      <![CDATA[@25: My daughter and I used to belong to a book club for elementary-aged girls and their mothers. After the third book (taken from the Newberry/Caldecott lists), and as someone whose own mother died when I was very young, I called for a temporary freeze on orphan-child stories. But it didn't last long, because most of them involve an absent parent.
        
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      <![CDATA[@17: Don't forget the threat of Mom being locked away for insanity (Dumbo... "Mad Elephant!"). As a little kid with a mother who had mental-health issues, that movie scared me shitless.
        
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      <![CDATA[@23, I mean nonsexual...
        
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      <![CDATA[@22<br />
Spoilers below<br />
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See my post @5 for how the 3 year old behind me took it. <br />
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Somethings that might be of concern:<br />
The guys wife dies and her death is a big part of the plot.<br />
He is pretty mean for most of the movie, but a kind of grumpy old men style mean.<br />
There are some rather scary dogs(they are mostly played for laughs but I can see it being scary to a kid)<br />
There is a reference to having a baby but it is pretty obscured and sexual<br />
There is some violence including a little blood. <br />
The kids father has basically abandoned him and left his mom for another women. again the references are pretty obscure and they are only a couple. <br />
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If it were my kid I would probably take them assuming that they are not the kind of kid that is prone to being scared easily. It is a great and sweet movie. My biggest concern would be that they would not understand it so I would probably go during the day so I could sit away from people and be able to explain things to them. That being said there is a lot of color and cute characters and the 3D is pretty cool so they would probably enjoy it just for that.
        
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      <![CDATA[Can someone who has seen Up let me know if it is too much to bring my 3yrold daughter to?  Its PG so Im assuming no at this point.
        
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      <![CDATA[Humpday:  It's not really about two guys considering poking, it's more about Ben (Mark Duplas' character) and his sociopathy:  his character is driven by anger, but his friends are too hip to see it as anything but hipster cynicism and Ben is too empty and paranoid to see himself as anything but right and cool.  <br />
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That's the driving force of the film, and in the end when (spoiler alert) Ben leaves the hotel to go do some splainin' with his wife, you feel unsettled, like he didn't get it out of his system as his wife had asked.  <br />
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Ben and Andrew needed to have more of a confrontation at the hotel and tear each other open or something.  Figure that shit out.  But it just stays under the surface.  It's like a movie about Pompeii where the ground shakes a little bit and everyone's confused and then it ends.  Pretty, yes, but not real story.
        
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      <![CDATA[So, basically, Disney is against Moms and Pixar is against Dads?
        
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      <![CDATA[Alicia Delmore is the weakest link in Humpday.  Just like Natasha Lyonne is the weakest link in Little Dizzle (a much better film than Humpday, frankly).  Maybe because both films are basically buddy movies about male relationships?  <br>
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Lynn Shelton admitted that no lines were written for the actors at the Q&A, and Alicia admitted that she was out of her element -- it shows on the screen.
        
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      <![CDATA[Interesting though, that in Up, while Carl's wife dies, it's the kid's father who abandons him...
        
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      <![CDATA[Sheryl @12:<br />
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What's that about? It is the most common plot device in children's fiction. You'd be hard pressed to find a children's book (at least for the 9-13 set) that doesn't involve the death, abandonment, or disinterest of (usually) the mother. Off the top of my head, see:<br />
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Out of the Dust<br />
A Single Shard<br />
The Giver<br />
Bambi<br />
Cinderella
        
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      <![CDATA[Killing mom (or flat out completely orphaning (or in this case widowing) the hero) puts the hero in an emotionally vulnerable position that makes the audience more sympathetic to its plight, and frequently, for Disney, provides a central conceit to the plot.<br />
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It also scares the be-jesus out of small children (to whom the thought of mom dying is about the scariest thing they can conjure up.<br />
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Disney figured out fast that its exciting to be scared shitless and weepy sad all at the same time... when its not real.<br />
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That and the fact that Disney's characters are usually forced to rise alone through complete self reliance.  (He was a supporter of Ayn Rand and shared her philosophic principals of Objectivism.)
        
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      <![CDATA[Good phrase.  I think they incorrectly assume that the death of the mom impacts kids more deeply than the death of a father.
        
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      <![CDATA[@12<br />
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      <![CDATA[Now, if you want the ultimate experience, see UP in 4-D.<br />
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Now that is a trip!<br />
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Mind you, you need some ... medication.
        
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      <![CDATA[I loved Up, but I think Finding Nemo wins as my favorite Pixar film of all time. I really liked The Incredibles, too.<br />
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@10 - I never really though about that, but you are absolutely right now that I do. A ton of Disney films that feature a family have the mom die at some point. <br />
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Wonder what that's about?
        
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      <![CDATA[I hadn't seen a 3-D movie in years and I'm glad they're coming back.  Up was a good movie, and they had a good 3 or 4 3-D trailers, which is exciting (ok, at least one looked painful).
        
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      <![CDATA[Up was really good, but The Incredibles is still the best. The Incredibles is one of the few Disney movies where they don't kill off the woman.
        
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      <![CDATA[Humpday was great.  I think less you know about the movie going into it the more you'll like it though.  But I can see why cap hill hipsters would be a bit disappointed by it.  <br />
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    <author><![CDATA[Peter F]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Paul, two great interviews with Up director Pete Docter in podcast form:<br />
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KCRW's "The Treatment", from last Wednesday: <a href="http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tt/tt090603pete_docter">http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tt/tt09&hellip;</a><br />
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Fresh Air, from the Tuesday before last: <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104535370">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story&hellip;</a><br />
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(both are also available free through iTunes)
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:02:30 -0700</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Julie in Eugene]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I thought Up was good, but definitely not my favorite Pixar movie.  There was too much sloppy storytelling going on for me to really <i>love</i> it.  Primarily related to [SPOILER] the part where they decide to drag the house (long parenthetical here, but it would have been better, I thought, if when they first landed the house was entirely too heavy to get off the ground, and he had thrown a bunch of stuff out, but couldn't bring himself to throw his wife's things out -- then the house floated, but not enough to really fly; the later scene where he throws stuff out could have been him finally deciding to throw his wife's stuff out so that the house could fly).  <br />
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Also, I was a little surprised about what happened to the hero guy at the end.  I think they could have come up with something more creative and on message than what actually happened to him.<br />
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The opening 10 minutes was amazing (I cried a bunch) and I thought the talking dogs were pretty funny, but afterwards I couldn't get past some of my gripes with the story...
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm not a big fan of the whole shoe-gazing genre (I hate hate HATE the Duplass brothers' films), but I enjoyed myself at Humpday.  <br />
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I agree that the initial creation of the central idea was not developed at all well.  Because, seriously, what?  <br />
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But, the rest of the movie rang relatively true.  And, no, they wouldn't talk ad nauseum about why they were squicked...they just were.  If you want an emotional or phyisological verbal dissection of human sexuality, a shoegaze comedy is not where you're going to find it.
        
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