http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/06/01/publishing-their-names Comments On: Who Are the Bigots in Your Neighborhood? by Dominic Holden en-us Copyright 2009 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:00:01 -0800 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:00:00 -0800 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by Michael of the Green]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:04:33 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Terry Nguyen]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:31:30 -0700 The Stranger Posted by CeCilios Woman]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:18:25 -0700 The Stranger Posted by i'm pro-science and i vote]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:40:34 -0700 The Stranger
Women's rights? Are you ok with those?
Posted by Jigae]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:20:00 -0700 The Stranger Posted by CeCilios Woman]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:02:56 -0700 The Stranger
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/01…

A position that is perfectly consistent with his position on the topic in 2000 and 2004 (which I pointed out (to much derision) here in January 2007).

http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/can_…

Surprising that with the Stranger’s laser like focus on this topic there is no mention of this here. I mean come on, I wouldn’t want to go hunting with the guy, but give him a little credit where its due. Or would that be to great an apostasy?

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:00:29 -0700 The Stranger Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:43:56 -0700 The Stranger Spite and Hate are the driving forces on Slog...
Posted by Karen]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:41:58 -0700 The Stranger Posted by Jigae]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:27:46 -0700 The Stranger
Can I ask? What does spite accomplish, beyond the initial "take that" euphoria?
Posted by kim in portland]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:23:14 -0700 The Stranger Posted by delbert]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:08:20 -0700 The Stranger
"Who are the bigots in your neighborhood?
In your neighborhood?
In your neigh-bor-hood?
They're the people that you meet,
when you're walking down the street.
They're the people that you meet each day."
Posted by amybang]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:20:43 -0700 The Stranger
I've been following the thread, and I wasn't going to get involved, because I'm not a Washingtonian. This gives me a stomach ache, not because I don't believe transparency is a good thing, because it is. Yes, I understand that petition are a matter of public record. But, because fear is an awful motivator. People feel threatened and they feel that their anger justifies their behavior, many come to regret it later, and this may just inspire more people to sign the petition for Ref. 71. I'm looking at this through lens of my experience in Portland (2004), when gays were given permision to marry and then all hell broke loose, petitions were signed, Prop 36 created, and now we have discrimination in our constitution. I thinking of the people I knew, who signed that petition and voted for Prop 36, and some really regret it now. I wish I had an answer, and I'm at a loss of what to do. I've already talked with the few family members I have living in Wash., they are conservatives about seeing this as a human equal rights issue, and sent ERW money. Other than pray, continue to talk to my family, and donate money I'm not sure what else I can do.
Posted by kim in portland]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:52:46 -0700 The Stranger
Whether it's the anonymous suggestion box at work or the way people behave in the cocoon of their cars, anonymity encourages antisocial, counter-productive behavior.
Posted by kresblamania]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:42:00 -0700 The Stranger Posted by mackro]]> Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:44:28 -0700 The Stranger
When I get a chance to sign a petition for granting rights, I will be more than glad to publish my name and address here on the Slog. That's a promise.

Light kills darkness. That's why Klansman wear masks.
Posted by Jigae]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:32:32 -0700 The Stranger Posted by nw]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:22:15 -0700 The Stranger
"We are winning" because "we" are showing that gay people partnering up or marrying doesn't change other people's lives at all. Most people HATE getting called even by people on their side. Again, well intentioned but incredibly naive, and there's a small chance it could backfire badly.
Posted by mackro]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:48:39 -0700 The Stranger
besides, I don't think we need anymore ammo given to conservative douches who equate gay rights activism with brownshirt tyranny. you know who I'm talking about...
Posted by LEE.]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:48:11 -0700 The Stranger
While this tactic is juvenile and below the belt, it's not illegal, it's not a breach of privacy, and it certainly isn't something unheard of. Religious crusaders have been doing this for years.

Now, because of this little BS stunt, the other side will scramble together to fight against this, sign something they had no intention of signing (way to think for yourself and not succumbing to knee-jerk reactions, btw), and then they'll retaliate by doing the same thing to any petitions they can find regarding gays' rights to marry. Honestly, who do you think is the more dangerous group of the two? Who do you think is going to have violence in mind when seeing these names on the list? All knowthyneighbor.org is planning on doing is subjecting a select number of these people to an uncomfortable phone call. Can these anti-gay extremists say the same, if they got their hands on the list of gay rights supporters' names? Doubtful.

People are just upset because they don't want to have to explain their reasoning behind why a certain group of human beings should be left behind and excluded from certain freedoms, because they know they're hypocritical, no matter the argument. Others will now sign this because they're hoping upon hope that they're called, so they can give the callers a "piece of their mind" or find an excuse to verbally assault people they don't like for no reason.

Childish.

I would have to agree...

Be careful the Pandora's box you open, as it WILL backfire on you!
Posted by Reality Check]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:05:56 -0700 The Stranger
This is a terrible idea period.

Nothing good can come from it. If they really want to allow people to double check the public rolls to make sure their name was fraudulently used, they should instead setup a system that requires you to also sign with the last 4 digits of your SSN #, and then enter that into a private system, that allows you to check privately, using your DOB & last 4 SSN #'s as a proof of ID for an individual to check one name. (their own)

Any other use of petition signatures is an unacceptable infringement on someone's right to see a measure on a public ballot to vote on.

Looking at KOMO's comment section it would appear that teh Gay movement is converting a LOT of folks over to being willing to sign the petition to get it on the ballot and squash Gay rights as punishment for being at the forefront of support of this idea.

Be careful what you wish for...
Posted by Reality Check]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:01:40 -0700 The Stranger
This is not new.

And if someone really REALLY wanted to get at supporters of this referendum, there's nothing stopping them from getting the signatures themselves. If the petition is successful.

Posted by Baconcat]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:30:18 -0700 The Stranger Someone feels "Gays are subhuman and that is why I signed the petition." Bang. Name is in publically listed as a bigot for everyone to see for decades to come. Hopefully, your decendents will be embarrassed by your actions 2009. The displeasure of this name printing campaign is about eternal embarrassment not about fear of violence.
Posted by your great grandchildren will disown you]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:46:29 -0700 The Stranger
And to clarify, I hardly expect the kind of violence from liberals that I do from the other side. But then, were I to disagree on a contentious subject I think the division would be so much more personal and painful between myself and a friend were this disagreement made public. I support marriage equality 100%. What about levies? Or zoning? I just don't see where this ends....
Posted by Groucho]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:45:06 -0700 The Stranger