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      <![CDATA[Shouldn't have watched the Garfunkel & Oates song. I have a feeling that having that bouncing around my head is going to harm my sex life.
        
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      <![CDATA[@ 39: Ah, that makes sense. Agreed.<br />
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@40: Maybe not. I think Dan's overestimating the power of guilt, though.
        
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      <![CDATA[If your pussy smells half as bad as G&O describe, you should probably see a doctor, or at least take a shower. Seriously.
        
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      <![CDATA[@38: "Where are people getting this idea that the bf is so likely to agree to the proposal? Most young men are a lot more interested in getting pussy themselves than they are in enabling their girlfriend to get some."<br />
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You're not really arguing with Dan here.
        
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      <![CDATA[@38,  the boyfriend might like that, agreed. I didn't mean to suggest he wouldn't. <br />
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What I meant is that CIC should not ask the girlcrush if she'll sleep with the boyfriend. And she shouldn't allow the boyfriend to think that this is possible. It's not possible -- the other woman is a lesbian.
        
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      <![CDATA[@36: I'd wager good money that @25 is much more likely to have accurately predicted the reaction of the boyfriend than you are. <br />
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Where are people getting this idea that the bf is so likely to agree to the proposal? Most young men are a lot more interested in getting pussy themselves than they are in enabling their girlfriend to get some. Sure, there's some wank material to be had from thinking about your girl burying her face in another girl thousands of miles away - but the boy is a lot more likely to agree if (a) he's likely to score soon himself and wants the free pass or (b) he thinks there's a chance he'll benefit directly when he returns home. But unless one of those two things is the case, it wouldn't surprise me if he said no. Most people want to have sex a lot more than they want to help their partner have sex, and most people don't like feeling left out.
        
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      <![CDATA[(@36 was referring to @25).
        
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      <![CDATA[225 "If you ask, be willing to entertain the idea that he will want to be part of your experiment upon return from the desert wastes of Oz. Better bring that up to your girlcrush when you proposition her, too."<br />
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No and no. Why would you even go there?
        
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      <![CDATA[I love G&O, but this song is a bit of a miss for me, as I think pussy is beautiful and don't really understand people who don't agree. Plus, women feel self-conscious enough, no need to reinforce negative views of their genitalia.
        
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      <![CDATA[@31, @32 -- Garfunkel & Oates are fun, but I think this is one of their few songs that unfortunately strengthens the envelope of tradition rather than pushing the envelope. <br />
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Mostly / entirely straight males and females have so much same-sex situational sex in certain situations -- English boarding schools in the 1930s, prisons, Oberlin College -- that the same-sex "ewww" factor obviously is made up / a cultural response -- or at least is no greater than for anyone having sex for the first time, whether with same gender or other gender.
        
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      <![CDATA[@18 Kinsey found more guy-on-guy sex for several reasons. First, his assistants did lengthy in-depth interviews asking each person his/her attractions, history, fantasies, etc.<br />
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Today's research, even major studies, use a survey and rarely "plumb the depths." Next, only some surveys ask about lifetime behavior now, most just focus on the past year. Many just ask "are you gay/straight/bi" and so *only* get at self-identification -- which is about 2% gay for males. <br />
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&gt;  Science suggests there are even fewer (male) bisexuals than there are gays! <br />
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Actually, today's science shows that bi-identified males are almost as rare as unicorns. But bi males go way up if you look at the research that looks at behavior (look at MSM on pubmed). The problem is that media summaries of the science usually get it all wrong / oversimplified.<br />
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Kinsey's work was in a way much more in depth than modern research. But it had faults too. There is no exact science when it comes to sex, as Kinsey said, we're all snowflakes. (Or was that gall wasps?)<br />
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Another wrinkle -- probably more situational male-on-male adolescent sex in the 1950s, whereas more of today's adolescent males can get it on with adolescent females.
        
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      <![CDATA[@31:<br />
I like my own parts.<br />
But my face in someone else's pussy? That would freak me out.
        
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      <![CDATA[I really don't get why women hate their own parts so much. They're totally awesome. I'm a man and mine's odd looking too, yet I don't freak out about it. What's the big deal?
        
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      <![CDATA[I think Garfunkel & Oates should do a double bill with the Wet Spots.
        
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      <![CDATA[@21: <blockquote> "... who doesn't really present a threat to your relationship because she's a lesbian and you're straight and blah blah blah..."</blockquote> I read that completely as an eyeroll from Dan. With maybe a little weariness at the cliche.
        
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      <![CDATA[Best G&O ever.  Something so subversive about it.<br />
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Mmmm warm blue cheese.
        
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      <![CDATA[Thanks so much for the Garfunkel and Oates.  I KNEW the woman Raj took home from the comic book store on Big Bang V-Day episode looked familiar.
        
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      <![CDATA[The letter is boring; the problem is probably fake; the Garfunkel and Oates was hilarious.  Thank you for it.
        
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      <![CDATA[If you ask, be willing to entertain the idea that he will want to be part of your experiment upon return from the desert wastes of Oz.  Better bring that up to your girlcrush when you proposition her, too.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Jerry M. Ander]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Let's see: 22, 22,19, Edmonton, Australia... My money says hot lesbian friend is a Savage Love reader, has followed the bread crumbs here, and already knows that CIC is ripe for the picking.  Look for early snow melt in Edmonton.
        
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      <![CDATA[My GF called me from a bar one night and started telling me about the cute barmaid she was developing a crush on. I told her she had my permission, without a second of delay. It didn't work out (yet), but I hope it does. If I am not allowed to stray, she still has my permission.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Clara T]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Didn't realize until just now that Garfunkel and Oates were black men.
        
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      <![CDATA[Ms Rand: I agree he's not somehow kinder to the guy, but:<br />
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"Tell your boyfriend about this girl who doesn't really present a threat to your relationship because she's a lesbian and you're straight and blah blah blah..."<br />
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is not only the sort of mediocrity one expects more from Ms Prudie than from Mr Savage, but also ought to strike anyone with a good sense of cliche that leading with She Isn't a Threat is the surest path to LW discovering that she's mistaken about that.<br />
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I think I have a double standard on this one because just by nature of societal advantages a possible opposite-sex relationship constitutes an almost automatic threat in reversed situations.
        
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      <![CDATA[I always thought Garfunkel and Oates are lezzies. Or am I missing some kind of irony here?  I did like the little clip.
        
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      <![CDATA[How deeply do you plan to probe?
        
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