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      <![CDATA[Griz's New LIfestyle Update: I feel & look freaking better NOW than I ever did at 28!?! If only I had known 20 years ago what I know now...okay. At least I know now.<br />
So-o-o....moving slowly on from Atkins (South Beach) to the Paleo ("some carbs are okay now") diet. I may be able to graduate to dark chocolate!!<br />
Even Smitten Kitten's glowing red penis looks good! Yoiks!!!
        
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      <![CDATA["Confused Upon Cheating Kink,"<br />
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YOU ARE A FOOL FOR AGREEING TO AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP. IT IS HUMAN NATURE TO GET "CAUGHT-UP" IN SUCH FEELINGS OF, PSEUDO-FREEDOM. SINCE DATING COUPLES WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE SEX, IT IS IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS SEXUAL TASTES DURING THE EARLY STAGES OF DATING. "Confused ... ," YOU MAY BE SURPRISED TO FIND-OUT YOUR PROSPECTIVE COMPANION SHARES YOUR SEXUAL TASTES. TO ONLY LOOK AT A PARTNER IN REFERENCE TO HER/HIS EARNINGS-POTENTIAL AND LONG-TERM SUITABILITY USUALLY LEADS TO DISSATISFACTION - OFTEN, SEXUAL - "DOWN-THE-ROAD."<br />
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CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON
        
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      <![CDATA[@130: Thanks for making some good points. My dad would say the same thing.
        
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      <![CDATA[Auntie G, I was teasing you. There are liberals down here too, (Romney conceded Fl because the vote was too close to count, and he hadn't won some of the major southern states he needed.) The thing is, even if people disagree with your views or flat out disapprove, it is okay. The world would be awfully boring if we all thought the same. Hell, SL would be boring without Hunter, it takes all types to make the world go 'round.
        
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      <![CDATA[@127:<br />
Amen to that!
        
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      <![CDATA[I have known a few men who couldn't finish from oral alone. It felt good but wasn't the right stimulation for them to come. It doesn't need to be a big deal unless you make it one.
        
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      <![CDATA[125--  Yes.  And that makes me all the more curious.  What was the original trouble?<br />
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Or with Marigold.  How far back does one have to go to find blame?  We can can say that it's all Guthrie's fault for being unfaithful, but that negates the possibility that she was making him miserable in the first place.  Certainly her willingness to make him miserable after his infidelity would suggest that she was doing so before.  And while this isn't in Mortimer's original, Marigold might have done a neat calculation.  She may have figured that she would not become measurably more happy if she did leave him.
        
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      <![CDATA[Ms Crinoline - I wondered about that as well. One might guess that what LW was doing was basically as he says, just sticking around without putting any effort into fixing the trouble.<br />
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My example will be Marigold Featherstone in "Rumpole and the Miscarriage of Justice". Having been presented with evidence that her husband Guthrie has boasted of committing infidelity (again), the formidable Marigold presently is asked by Guthrie for her decision. She declares that she's not going to leave him; that would make things far too easy for him. But she's certainly not going to forgive him. "I'm going to stay here, and NOT forgive you."<br />
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      <![CDATA[@122 AFinch: Thanks! I've got an outstanding ND---I have already lost substantial inches--in all the right spots--and am down to 170 lbs (like <br />
I mentioned, I'm big-boned and broad framed; if I weighed 112 lbs, I'd be<br />
horrifyingly skeletal!).<br />
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Unfortunately, my doctor is in the hospital with a complicated illness right now, and I am praying for her recovery and that she's much better soon. I am experimenting with gluten-free products, and tried some pretty good rice-flour (Annie's organic) macaroni & cheese pasta. I can't eat it all the time, though because of the carbs.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm still trying to parse CUCK's letter.  From the grammatical structure, it would seem that his main example of the thing he did wrong in his earlier relationship was stay in it long after he knew it wasn't working.  I'm pondering that.  It used to be that there was something noble in sticking around out of loyalty, out of continuing to try to make it work, out of devoting oneself to the lost cause.  It used to be that one could garner public sympathy by long sufferingly putting up with another's mistreatment.  Now, while I certainly see nothing admirable in making oneself and others miserable, I wonder that trying to make a relationship work is seen as sharing the blame for the break up.
        
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      <![CDATA[@120 - I don't know that there is any indication that anyone has worked out who his successor will be.  Obviously they have to have a vote.<br />
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Like JPII, Benedict has been packing the College of Cardinals with ultra-conservative reactionaries from Italy - this is analogous to presidents appointing to the SCOTUS - the next Pope and the direction of the RCC is largely determined by the College.  I'm not sure that any of the people responsible for the thaw in theological rigidity expressed in Vatican-II are left around anyway, so it's likely that the new conservatives were replacing existing conservatives.<br />
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I think, to survive outside the 3rd World, the RCC will have to change - dramatically - in the next couple of decades and that it is unlikely to do so.  I dunno - ever since I was touched by His Noodly Appendage, I've kind of stopped caring so much what the RCC does.  <br />
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      <![CDATA[I can't see that the papal resignation will change anything or is really news.  It's not like this guy is resigning so someone with new, fresh, different ideas can step in.  <br />
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I think of all intolerant religions a little like I think of breaking up with someone not suited for me.  At the time of the break-up, I'm disappointed, hurt, unhappy, but in the long run, I wish them well, just not near me.  Some time goes by, and I realize it doesn't matter what horrible ideas my ex had; he can't hurt me anymore.  Thus with Catholicism.  Don't like Catholicism?  DTMFA.<br />
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The idea of a pope resigning is shocking only in its modernity.  Used to be, with the state of medicine as it was, people had short deaths.  They went from productive to dead without much lag time in between.  It's only in the days of modern medicine and modern care that so many people can linger the way we do.  So the pope is sort of nodding his head to what modern non-believing doctors can do.
        
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      <![CDATA[@116 & @119: So-o-o-o-o-o----the new leader of the RC church is already supposed to be infinitely worse than the one currently abdicating?<br />
Heaven help us.
        
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      <![CDATA[@116 - I'm looking forward to the Podcast opening rant...I'm not sure how far ahead of release he records the podcast, and whether he will have a chance to respond before they 'go to press' or whatever, but yah, should be fun.
        
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      <![CDATA[I have found that the best thing for our sex life came in the form of experimenting with Adult Toys<br>
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      <![CDATA[@auntie grizelda: If you're ok, then it's all good as far as I'm concerned. <br />
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@albeit @107: Wow. That post dialed right into my frequency.<br />
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      <![CDATA[I can hardly wait to observe Mr Savage's reaction to the upcoming Papal abdication. My first reaction is that it's likely timed to insure that the new Holiness will be the RC version of Justice Alito.
        
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      <![CDATA[@113 seandr: So....is everything okay, then?....I'm not out to kill anyone.<br />
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@114 tachycardia and all southerners: Rats--sorry! I was trying not to generalize, as I know not everybody from any one part of the world is all the same.  I'm a little bit of the following: progressive somewhere in the center veering left, a bit quirky (ask any of our regular bloggers!), and tend to vote Democrat. My hesitation  towards visiting the Southern US is based on my belief that a lot of people there in the red states lean towards the right-wing conservative side, and might hotly disagree with---and disapprove of---my personal views.<br />
But I'm glad to hear that southern gals know how to fend off unwanted attention, too.
        
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      <![CDATA[@103 Auntie G, I happen to live in ,the south, and women here do not put up with the attitudes seandr so hilariously satirized either.  Guys who try don't get far for exactly the reason you said: we have guns and our daddies made sure we know how to use them;)
        
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      <![CDATA[@mydriasis: In your mind, can a man maintain the dominant position while allowing you to set the agenda (at least in part) for a blow job? Or does being dominant require a man to tell you what to do and take what he wants?
        
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      <![CDATA[@mydriasis -- yeah, it can go either way. The thing is to recognize that and figure out which way works best for both partners. My impression is that you're lucky in having a particularly strong bent in one direction, so that such decisions are generally clear to you.
        
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      <![CDATA[@110 mydriasis: Okay, my goof. Sorry for the misinterpretation. Dang---that's twice now that I've misread posts, including those from seandr's, too (my apologies, too, seandr, though it creeped me out).  It sounds like sex has been fully enjoyable for you. That must be really amazing. I've never experienced that.
        
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      <![CDATA[@auntie<br />
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Wait I didn't say that at all.<br />
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I prefer a dominant partner, especially if he doesn't give up the dominant position, even I'm on top or if I'm giving head. *swoon*<br />
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I'm pretty decently versed in not choking/gagging so thrusting doesn't bother me at all, in fact the aggressiveness kinda does it for me.
        
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      <![CDATA[@108 mydriasis: Once again, I agree with you, and with Eirene (@100) about not wanting to be thrust into a part of me that has to breathe. <br />
My ex seemed more intent on choking me during BJs, then later with his own bare hands, rather than showing any concern for my actual pleasure. Whenever he offered to eat me I was left feeling like he was only doing so out of a marital obligation and that his heart really wasn't in it.  <br />
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It's all water under the bridge now, and I've moved on since, but I finally <br />
had to leave after nine years of doing most of the giving. Isn't good sex supposedly a two-way street?
        
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      <![CDATA[@albeit?<br />
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You think giving head is a power dynamic where the giver has all the power?<br />
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Dude. <i>Not always</i>
        
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