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      <![CDATA[I remember this letter. It was one that really opened my eyes. It honestly changed the way I think about future relationships. Separate apartments would probably not be my ideal setup, but after reading this and thinking about it, I realized how much I love the idea of separate bedrooms. I strongly dislike sharing a bed. I like to sleep diagonal! Since no one is reading this far, I will also mention that my ex acted all shocked and pouty when I suggested that we could bring both of our beds if we moved in together. (So glad we didn't!)
        
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      <![CDATA[@45 &47: Perhaps you would be less angry if you and your spouse had separate beaver dams to which to withdraw when their interminable twig chewing gets to be <i>Just</i>. <i><b>Too.</i></b> <i><b>MUCH</i></b>!!!<br />
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      <![CDATA[I give most of the credit for my 15-year marriage to the rambling house that I bought us 3 months after we got together.  We have separate bed/bath/office suites.  We're both severe introverts, there's no way it could work at closer quarters.<br />
Yes it's first world problems, but so it is: if being married ever means sharing a bedroom, I'll be single the next month.
        
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      <![CDATA[@45 - Do you really think people in 3rd world nations don't have relationship questions or issues with social norms?  It's hard to read your comment and not wonder if your image of these people lacks some depth.  It's also hard to not to infer (maybe I'm off base here) that there is some shaming going on.  As if the presence of people with 'serious' problems means that everyone else needs to keep their 'trivial' problems to themselves, and in the process become mentally unhealthy.<br />
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      <![CDATA[We live together and enjoy it, but I travel frequently for work (and he's not allowed to join me until the work is either over or almost over, depending on how intense the project is) and we both have regular times we spend doing our own thing, as well as spontaneous evenings we spend alone.  I think he'd drive me crazy if I didn't have some time to myself.  We don't have a ton of space right now, but have discussed what we want in a house (we're 2-5 years off of that), and two office spaces or a separate den and living room keeps coming up.  We don't have any issues now, but I think both of us are thinking that buying a house is going to increase our expenses, and neither of us are likely to make substantially more money anytime soon (the only upward mobility either of us have at work right now would be into management, and neither of us are interested in that), so I think we're both working on the assumption that we'd be dining out and otherwise going out less, both separately and together, when that happens.<br />
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      <![CDATA[@ 41 - If you need to be forced into communicating and having sex by living together, seems to me that your relationship is doomed anyway.
        
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      <![CDATA[I knew a kid in high school whose parents lived in a duplex.  Mom had the upstairs apartment and she came down to have meals with the family, but she just enjoyed having her own space.  Everyone was fine.
        
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      <![CDATA[Seems like living apart would make it a little too easy to avoid communication and sex.
        
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      <![CDATA[People should think more about retirement. In our increasingly "you're on your own" society, separate residences are a luxury that people on the lower end of the income scale should think very carefully about avoiding.<br />
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Two can live together more cheaply than two living apart. A 1BR is less than double two studios in most cities. Rent can be combined for a mortgage -- if you're together more than 5 years, building net equity (even if you wind up not being together forever).<br />
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Even if they both own already, in many parts of the country, a single large property appreciates faster than two smaller properties and in most areas substantially lower carrying costs that two residences (in NYC for instance, price per square foot goes *up* as apartment square footage increases; in suburban and rural markets, two houses means two roofs to maintain, two hot water heaters, ...).<br />
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A LTR / partnership can have financial benefits as well as emotional ones. LW was 30 living in a studio apt. -- maybe by choice, but probably she was not at the income level where she would never have to worry about retirement, nor at an income level where the savings of coupled living would be trivial.<br />
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Some people just aren't cut out for coupled living, and happiness is important -- my point is that future financial welfare is also one important piece of one's well being.
        
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      <![CDATA[@11 It will tell you no more about his openness and flexibility than about hers, and perhaps less.  It is perfectly reasonable to want and expect to live with one's spouse or longterm bf/gf.<br />
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Incompatibility does not always require one to make judgments on character or morality or fault.  Sometimes people are just incompatible as a matter of style or personality.
        
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      <![CDATA[Separate bedrooms.  Done.
        
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      <![CDATA[I and my partner of 22 years lived separately for the first 8 years of our relationship.  We spent most of our time in each other's space - weeks at a time, sometimes - but always each knew we had our own home to go to.  <br />
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Neither of us ever felt entitled to criticise the other's living arrangements, whether it be housekeeping skills, staying up late, having noisy parties etc. because we didn't have to be there or put up with it if we didn't want to.  <br />
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At any point, either of us could say: 'I need some headspace: I'll come back tomorrow,' and go home for a while, and the other would understand.  We had a set arrangement that we would always spend Saturday afternoon and evening together, whether quietly at home together, or going out.<br />
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This all made it a lot easier when we needed to move in together for financial reasons.  We were already pretty accustomed to living in each other's space, and dealing with each other's ways of doing things.  Which is not to say that there were no tensions - of course there were - but it was pretty painless on the whole.
        
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      <![CDATA[My partner of 3.5 years has just bought the other side of the duplex I own.  This could not be a more perfect arrangement.
        
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      <![CDATA[My ex-wife suggested this approximately one week before jumping into bed with the sad-sack who was teaching her creative writing class at the local community college. Good times. My only objections were financial and "what exactly does this mean?"<br />
I'm not saying it's inherently a bad idea ... just sharing my data point.
        
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      <![CDATA["Live Close By, Visit Often".  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTxUG-aGFXc" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTxUG-aG&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[This is one of the problems I foresee if I ever meet someone worth dating.  I've been single and living alone for so long that I cannot imagine living in a small space having to sleep next to someone every night.  It's just so stifling to me.  But first, I have to meet someone who is attractive, intelligent, and sane before anything else would even become a point of discussion.  So far, no luck.
        
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      <![CDATA[Oh no. Charles would need more room that 400 square feet for his ego surely?
        
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      <![CDATA[If Charles reads all these posts about separate apartments or couples having their own spaces in the same house, his head will explode.  He thinks all couples should be sharing studio apartments of no more than 400 square feet.
        
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      <![CDATA[Couples should live together. She'll contribute to raising the housing costs with her bourgeois sense of entitlement. Just get your own room.
        
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      <![CDATA[My husband and I have separate homes. We call it the Omar Sharif Model of marriage. Works for us. Makes dates with our other significant others logistically easier too.
        
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      <![CDATA[Loverman and I (2 yrs now) have our own places in two seperate states (but work a block and a half away from each other) and have agreed that if we ever "move in together" we are getting a duplex. Different aesthetics. He likes having a TV, I don't own one. If I wake in the wee hours, I like to get up and read or work, he doesn't. Lots of things. But, it seems to be working so far. That's all we can hope for.
        
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