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      <![CDATA[I'm really racking my brains for an example of privatization from the last forty years that didn't result in higher costs and inferior service for the public (i.e. "the customer.")
        
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I'm sure they've done everything they can to lower "fixed" costs as well.  I've seen some photos of privatized prisons down south where the inmates sleep in bunk beds, maybe 20 to a room.  Surely that's not a recipe for disaster.
        
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      <![CDATA[@8<br />
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I'd tend to react that way to. But then I remember that all the wingnuts I know have this ideology that says the free market is the solution to every problem, large or small, local or national.<br />
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I wasn't too thrilled with state run liquor stores, and I can think of a lot of my favorite things that I don't want nationalized. But not the fire department. Not the police. <br />
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It really depends. You have to look at the facts on the ground and adapt a solution that works. If conditions change, adapt to that. Getting the Internet off the ground required massive state subsidy and direction, but now I'd mostly like the government to butt out of cyberspace. Until we need the governemnt.<br />
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Hedgehogs and foxes, you know.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think this can be said for almost any privatization of government services, Education, law enforcement, transportation. Increased costs and lower services while a few get rich
        
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      <![CDATA[<i>""Privatization [...] places downward pressure on staffing, pay and benefits for all"</i><br />
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This is the secret scandal of privatization economics. This is one of the major campaigns in the ongoing capitalist class war.
        
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      <![CDATA["Hurp durp. Who cares about the living conditions of inmates? They're prisoners and therefore they're inherently evil and they deserve it! They deserve it! A friend of mine once had his car broken into and a wallet of CDs stolen, I'm very tough on crime and I tell it like it is!"
        
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      <![CDATA[<i>"Privatization [...] places downward pressure on staffing, pay and benefits"</i><br />
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This is economics 201.  Given fixed costs (the building, electricity, water, sewage, etc.) and variable costs (inmate food, supplies, guard salaries)... the only way to make a profit is to reduce the variable costs... So lowering salaries to the lowest possible level is #1 on the list, well, along with lowering the quality of inmate food of course, but fuck them anyway, right?<br />
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This, of course, ensures that we have low-quality guarding going on, and it opens a huge incentive for personal corruption.<br />
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The problem with this blinkered privatization of everything... --the idea that it is some sort of financial/market panacea--... is that the quality diminishes in order to secure a profit for the owners.  <br />
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If the owner isn't worried about making a profit.. then the correct resources can be allocated.  <br />
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This is true for urban transit systems, and the post office, and many other things where competition doesn't make any sense at all.
        
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      <![CDATA[@1, You forgot also the need to keep poor people poor by locking them up for offenses that the middle-class would get a warning for. (Continual persecution for non-violent drug-users).<br />
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The "Titans" of Wall Street have robbed the country of billions of dollars and yet not a single one has seen the inside of a for-profit prison as an inmate.<br />
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<a href="http://reason.com/archives/2011/06/08/prison-math" rel="nofollow">http://reason.com/archives/2011/06/08/pr&hellip;</a><br />
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But, really, as discussed in another thread, it is because poor people don't have middle-class values for ownership and hard-work. Hell. Locking them up is probably doing them a favor!
        
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Lets not forget that for profit prisons can and have lead to corruption at the expense of the "criminal."
        
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      <![CDATA[But if we don't lock up lots of people, how will we maintain the Police State and continue to live in Fear?
        
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