Comments On: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board by Cienna Madrid

Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

It's only rape after all — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:30:46 -0800

@20 so the Times editorials are a more important debate point than forcing women in Seattle to have to work with convicted rapists?

Priorities friends!
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Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

Che Guava — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:17:15 -0800

@rapetroll: let us know your position on the Seattle Times' ongoing serial rapes of civics and culture, THEN we'll attempt discussion on hiring ex-cons at The Stranger. And I don't know why you're pestering Cienna - isn't that really a question for Dan Savage? Sorry to make sense on you all of a sudden, but that's how we roll at Slog.
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It's only rape after all — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:58:14 -0800

@18. No Doubt, you'd think Cienna would be at least a little concerned that under Harrell's bill she may well have to work with convicted rapey rapists breathing down her neck and there won't be jack sh*t she can do about it.
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Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

sgt_doom — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:24:19 -0800

On another subject:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/01…

http://www.commondreams.org/sites/common…

(Sorry, but I always think of this subject when Cienna blogs.)
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Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

It's only rape after all — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:43:33 -0800

"The issue here is the Times propensity to stretch facts around their biased agendas! "

Unlike the stranger. Thanks for the laugh.

And in this case if the Times helps prevent cienna from having to share a cubicle with a convicted rapist, I have no problem with their editorial. Committed Sloggers have zero right to gripe about media bias.
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Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

It's only rape after all — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:40:04 -0800

@15 So does Cienna have no right to stop a convicted rapist from working next to her?
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Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

Seattle Joe — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:33:45 -0800

@It's only rape after

The issue here is the Times propensity to stretch facts around their biased agendas!

All, you're trying to elude the issue by soliciting an emotional response. Whether or not you agree with the bill is one thing. The bigger issue here is that the Times, because of it's statues as a respected news source here in the Puget Sound area, is able to throw it's weight around and put "facts" up that are hardly more than deliberate misinterpretations. It's a newspaper, they are supposed to report unbiasedly!!!

And by the tone of your post @It's only rape after all, you'd fit in so well with the Times that I wouldn't be surprised if you worked for them.
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DOUG. — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:20:42 -0800

"In which I..." is a tired literary device, and it does not make you sound smarter.
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It's only rape after all — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:53:57 -0800

We still haven't heard yet whether Cienna (or any other Slogger for that matter) would be willing to share a cubicle on night shifts with a convicted rapist, no questions alllowed. Say one of those Steubenville boys turns out to be a great writer?

Another case of "do as we say, not as we're willing to do ourselves"?
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say Hi to your uncle — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:06:46 -0800

Sweetheart, if you are wearing the Goldy Hat don't forget the matching Big Red Nose and Floppy Shoes.....
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Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

NaFun — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 23:44:26 -0800

I read it as nodding towards Goldy's usual fisking, and going ahead into a rebuttal/takedown of the Times, which us more generally is what Goldy does.
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Ballard Pimp — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 23:28:00 -0800

@5--Harrell is chair of the City Council Public Safety Committee. For the past two years he has been working on a city ordinance to deal with the problem, both for employment and housing. I agree with you about running against Frank Chopp, but it is Harrell's decision, and not ours.
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Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

It's only rape after all — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:44:23 -0800

Until cienna says she's willing to share her cubicle and do night shifts next to a convicted rapist, I say she's full of shit.
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Re: In Which I Put on My Goldy Hat and Bitch About the Seattle Times Editorial Board

It's only rape after all — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:35:23 -0800

How about rapists, will Sloggers happily work next to them? Night shifts too?
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espato — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:29:09 -0800

Harrel's legislation is a great solution to a pervasive problem that results in widespread disenfranchisement.

There is also a bill being introduced in the State legislature that would allow vacation of more than one misdemeanor when all other conditions of vacating a conviction have been met. Support HB 1087!
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It's only rape after all — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:12:51 -0800

So cienna, would you let The Stranger be forced to hire a rapist to work in your cubicle?
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:01:24 -0800

If Harrell has ideas for legislation, it's kind of weird to be running for Mayor of Seattle. Legislators legislate. Shouldn't he be running for the state house? Or if he wants to influence state law from an executive post, isn't that the Governor's office?

It's nice to have helpful opinions about what the state law ought to be, but if it's wholly outside the scope of the office you're seeking, it's kind of a distraction. Remember how they mocked McGinn for running for mayor with a platform that included taking over and reforming Seattle schools, which aren't in the Mayor's purview?

Don't get me wrong. Harrell would make a kick ass legislator. Why not unseat Chopp next time around?
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Good for Bruce — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:42:02 -0800

Stuff like this is why I think Harrell should be mayor. Can you imagine McGinn, or Steinbrueck, or Burgess, or Murray, giving half a shit about ex-cons who are trying to go straight? Harrell is the most populist of the bunch, and that's the kind of mayor we need.
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kitschnsync — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:21:06 -0800

A small quibble about word usage: This blog entry isn't really a fisking.

I'm not going to comb this whole stupid editorial line by line, as Goldy often does <-This is fisking.

Forgive my pedantry, please. Carry on.
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gloomy gus — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:09:18 -0800

That's great, Cienna. You go ahead and tackle the Times Ed Board as much as you like. Seems like there's enough largely-unread foolishness there for plenty of posts for the two of you.
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westello — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:54:53 -0800

Yes! The Times regularly cites "facts" and yet never clearly explains where that fact came from or references. You are supposed to take their word for it (and you really shouldn't).

The Times editorial board for, the most part, does sloppy or lazy work. This is especially true with editorials about education and it's hard to fathom. They are not dumb people so if you want to win an argument (or at least have people listen to your side), give complete information. Back up what you say with real information and yes, facts.
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