Comments On: We Were All Women Once by Dan Savage

Re: We Were All Women Once

gnot — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:47:22 -0800

@21 I wonder if we get the same restorative testosterone peak then?

And also, that's why it makes you nauseous/hurts up in your abdomen, when you get hit in the balls.
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Barbara — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:34:59 -0800

I fucking love science <-- check out the facebook page. Cool stuff there. I am not affiliated.
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Write or Wrong — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:34:12 -0800

@4, yes, women do wake up with engorged clits. I read something very recently about how both men and women wake up hard. Of course, it's just less noticeable for us.
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Corydon — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:22:18 -0800

I thought fetuses weren't people.
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mint chocolate chip — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:34:49 -0800

Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. We were all fish once.
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Spike1382 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:10:27 -0800

Also someone who's Y chromosome does not activate and is born identifiably female will be treated as and raised as a female. This video mixes up DNA, sex, and gender and treats them as all the same. It really didn't need to but unforntunetly did.
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DarthKelly — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:44:05 -0800

I appreciated that they commented that some consider that stage of development gender neutral, but I wish they'd put more emphasis on it. A lack of penis/testicles does not make one a woman any more than a lack of breasts makes one a man. Prior to the development of the sex organs, the gonads truly are gender neutral. So, phenotypically speaking, the organism is neither male nor female.
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Ipso Facto — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:30:02 -0800

@10: Yes.
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cgd — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:12:38 -0800

@13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development…
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GermanSausage — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:07:36 -0800

@13 I think he's mostly making a semantic argument. The undifferentiated glands in a five week old embryo are just called "gonads" not "ovaries." Calling them ovaries is a bit like calling a five week old XX embryo a "woman."

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wxPDX — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:49:56 -0800

@12 Being generous, I'll assume you're speaking from a more educated position than the intro bio most of us learned in college. Please, educate us.
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cgd — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:41 -0800

Oh, bullocks. The ovaries don't turn into testes. This is what you get out of science for dummies like "everybody started out female."

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monotheism is relative — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:54 -0800

Genesis 1:26
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness..."

ipso dipso.... there are boy gods and girl gods.
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Brooklyn Reader — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:17:45 -0800

In the first Creation story of the Bible (before the one with Adam and Eve), we have this:

Genesis 1:27
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

So... mankind, male AND female, are in the image of God. Ipso facto, God resembles a 5-week old fetus?
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Knat — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:16:06 -0800

I would hope that a lot of this is not news to anyone that passed 8th grade biology in a public school.

Still, it's entertaining, and an easy, informative vid to point to when the question is posed about why men have nipples. Thanks for sharing, Dan.
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wisepunk — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:13:40 -0800

Some of us were making the proper choices, even in the womb. What?
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SeattleKim — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:06:38 -0800

Apparently, all men are just variations of the female form.
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DRF — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:59:35 -0800

It is proper that the video acknowledges that not everyone considers these embryos to be truly female. That totally deflated all my complaints. This thing was very expressive and memorable.

The SRY does stunt female traits. It also promotes male ones.
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Hyzenthlayk9 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:39:34 -0800

@3 Actually it's more like saying that men are incomplete (repressed/underdeveloped) women - since the SRY acts to stunt female traits.
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SeattleKim — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:37:28 -0800

I wonder if women have teeny tiny clit morning wood?
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GermanSausage — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:29:49 -0800

It's like the old argument that women are simply incomplete men.
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:27:13 -0800

Reductionist thinking is reductionist.
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Banna — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:16:22 -0800

...but then I got better.
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