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      <![CDATA[This is the umpteenth write up I've seen of this that doesn't bother to link or reference the police report. <br>
I'm not trying to be a cop sympathizer, but I am tired of James Egan trying to make money off tax payers by showing out of context situations.<br>
The parts of this you cant hear and cant see on video are the parts where this guy can't even come up with a phone number for his "girlfriend", he's parked a car running in front of a business that is often robbed by people who have parked their cars (running!) in front of it. The guy also has tons of keys, which is typical of car thieves and burglars (no, really, it is).<br>
So an officer pulls up, and some kid comes out, says "what the fuck are you doing by my car?" (wow, how polite), reeks of pot, can't give ANY legit information on whose care he is driving, and stays keyed up and overly upset. He continually reaches for the keys on the hood of the car, which are often used as weapons.<br>
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James Egan has NO case here, and he is wasting OUR money. This does not bring police reform, it brings him money and advertising. Fuck that guy... SO hard.
        
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      <![CDATA[46: Not really.  If you stick your hand in a person's mouth against their will, they will instinctively try to close their mouth.  If you already have a finger in, that finger will get bit in the process.  It's not a calculated act on the part of the biter and it's irrelevant how peaceful and law-abiding they are; it's a knee-jerk reaction, and any cop worth his salt should know this.  If that cop has an injured finger then it's his own damn fault for suddenly jamming that finger into somebody's mouth: all the authority in the world won't stop that from resulting in a bite.<br />
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Speaking of knee-jerk reactions: when cops are being trained, are they made aware of how people tend to naturally tense up when they're being grabbed and thrown around?  I understand that someone is resisting arrest if they actually fight or if they continue making things difficult over several minutes.  But tensing up at the first moment of being grabbed, slammed, and tossed around isn't "resisting arrest;" it's just "having reflexes."  Too many cops use that as a basis to immediately get even rougher.
        
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      <![CDATA[I refuse to read this story on the grounds that it lacks a rape angle.
        
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      <![CDATA[I couldn't say whether he bit the cop or not (I watched it several times) but given that the cop put his fingers across the guy's teeth whilst violently pulling his head back - I can't imagine reacting rationally to such a thing (i.e. refraining from blighting) would be necessarily possible. <br />
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Whether the blonde cop was a bully to begin with, or if he's been damaged from too many bad experiences on the beat,  he seems to be projecting onto this innocent guy and really should hand his badge in.
        
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      <![CDATA[@5 -- he's never pulled out of camera range. The police car behind the suspect's car most likely captured the entire event. <br />
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Egan didn't release that video to Slog and/or Slog didn't publish it.
        
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      <![CDATA[@45 and all others questioning the biting --<br />
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You understand, of course, that a police report containing a photo of the injury to the police officer's hand exists somewhere. Some form of medical clearance exists allowing the police officer to return to duty.<br />
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If the police officer has bite marks on his hand, does your opinion in this matter change?
        
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      <![CDATA[There was no biting. I looked at it several times. His jaw didn't move at all when the cop put his hand over his upper lip and nose. That cop is a liar and a bully, picking on someone smaller and outnumbered, with all the authority of the law behind him, and then trying blame the victim for his own abuse.
        
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      <![CDATA["Keys and Hand Talking". Yes, he should have kept his hands on the hood. But, it seems to me to be an extra long time that they question him while asking to keep his hands on the hood, Anytime I have been in that position, I get searched, pronouced 'safe' then its Q&A time. But then again, I am a middle aged white guy.I have yet to figure out the criminal angle of having too many keys. At a bare minimum, our lives requires 5 keys (at least mine) 1 to get into my building, A second to open my apartment door, a third to check my mailbox, #4.. the door key to my automobile, and the Grand finale..#5 for the ignition. CRAP! I have a locking gas cap. #6. Double Crap!! I am a good friend and neighbor, so I have 2 of my friend's spare keys 7 and 8. SHITFUCKMYLIFE..i forgot the key to my gf's place and my ex's place too...cause well you know a lil ex-sex here and there doesn't hurt. I'll just wait for the po-po to come haul me to jail.
        
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      <![CDATA[Police reform will be pretty much the only criteria I use to pick our next mayor.
        
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      <![CDATA[Is it just me or do a lot of cops just automatically shout "STOP RESISTING" any time they come into contact with another human on camera?<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[Illegally parked and screwed. You'd think there would be more dangerous criminals to catch out there. I guess these guys lack the bravery to pursue real criminals.
        
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      <![CDATA[I agree with 35, looked like the cop grabbed him right across the teeth.  I'd think it would be physically close to impossible to bite down hard with your head jerked back at that angle...any biting looked incidental and reflexive.  <br />
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The way they were twisting his head and grabbing him across the throat...this is a problem I have with police tactics: they put your body in an extreme, close-to-breaking position, then wonder why people don't obey their commands to "relax."  I've done some martial arts and grappling training, and to me it is physically quite difficult to relax when someone, say, has your arm 1/2" short of being dislocated at the elbow.  You naturally want to pull your arm in to take off the stress.  Then the cops can say you are "resisting."
        
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      <![CDATA[@37<br />
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I agree, violence is violence.  Unions shouldn't (and officially don't) support it, and to those who want to fight violence should focus on the violent individuals instead of attacking unions.
        
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      <![CDATA[@34 he couldn't write a ticket, the car wasn't on a public roadway.
        
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      <![CDATA[Hey 36, the difference between ILWU members who act like assholes and SPOG members is that the longshoremen's flaws are personal and the cops flaws are professional.  It's their JOB to deal with difficult human situations all day, if they can't handle it they should unload ships for a living.
        
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      <![CDATA[@28<br />
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Members of the longshoremen and the teamsters were physically intimidating and engaging Occupy participants at meetings as recently as a year ago, during the grain terminal conflict, and there were also reports of physical intimidation against members of management (denied, sensibly, by union officials).<br />
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I am also extremely skeptical of that "only against property" distinction, when political property damage is almost always perceived (and often enough, intended) as an act of intimidation, as a threat against people, not just things.
        
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      <![CDATA[hahaha he didnt bite him.  the cop put his hand in the guys mouth.  wtf?
        
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      <![CDATA[@30 - So, write the guy a ticket?
        
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      <![CDATA[What did that guy do to get that police treatment?  Will the police say what he did at the conference?  Maybe he's the guy that stole your car.
        
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      <![CDATA[Also, my point isn't that the cops are innocent.  My point is that James Egan is a Liar.
        
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      <![CDATA[My point, such as it was, is that mounting an attack on the police union is not going to help reduce violence, and might even be counterproductive.<br />
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If you want to reform the department, you're going to have to find a way to condemn violent officers without condemning them for being cops.  There's got to be a way forward here; it's not like the union is going to officially assert the right of police officers to beat the fuck out of anyone who pisses them off.
        
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      <![CDATA[Wait, was the car illegally parked?  Or not?<br />
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And, if it was, that is at minimum an infraction.<br />
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And, why the hell would you leave the car running if you weren't parking illegally?  Also, does it really only take a few minutes to buy some baby clothes?  Probably 10 minutes at minimum.  Regardless, is there any amount of time that is acceptable to illegally park and abandon your vehicle?
        
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      <![CDATA[Ricist Gestapo. Something tells me this would never happen to someone with blond hair, blue eyes and light skin.
        
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      <![CDATA[@21 Give some recent examples, less than ten years old. I honestly haven't kept up with most labor politics news, so if there's a glaring incident of actual (human-on-human, not human-on-property) violence that slog is selectively ignoring, remind us of it.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Clearly his CO2 footprint is too high]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Illegally parking a car and leaving the engine running? Aren't the Green Police supposed to fuck with him?<br>
        
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