http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=15650534 Comments On: Savage Love by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Mon, 20 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Mon, 20 May 2013 02:30:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by Michael aka moni]]> Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:10:59 -0700 The Stranger So, Eric, if your reading this contact me at http://bipaganman.tumblr.com/ask
I really want to know what we aren't hearing about Dan Savage.
Posted by Troy from IN]]> Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:16:32 -0700 The Stranger Just like I can't be racist because I have black friends.
BTW, can I have Eric's contact info, I have some questions I'd like to ask him http://bipaganman.tumblr.com/post/160301…
Posted by Troy from IN]]> Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:44:20 -0800 The Stranger Posted by auntie grizelda]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:12:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ELWB]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:30:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ELWB]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:26:22 -0800 The Stranger

Posted by Hunter78]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:56:30 -0800 The Stranger Posted by nocutename]]> Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:46:13 -0800 The Stranger
@Hunter78: Language is powerful. It spurns the bridle.
Posted by seandr]]> Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:24:15 -0800 The Stranger

Posted by Hunter78]]> Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:11:42 -0800 The Stranger
Look, PC was an excellent term that used to mean the status quo of what could be said without offending the general public - often lots of racist and homophobic things have still been "PC" because they're just veiled enough - see 98% of Mitt Romney's campaign.

But now it's been snagged by anyone who wants to be able to hold onto slurs and won't let go for the life of them like a kid holding on to their blankie.
Posted by mydriasis]]> Mon, 07 Jan 2013 04:55:07 -0800 The Stranger
It just reminds me too painfully of all the people scolding ACT-UP in the early years, or those telling the pro-marriage gays they were bourgeois sell-outs. People in a movement get to have those fights. Allies will have opinions, of course, but would be well-advised to show a little grace and wisdom when expressing said opinions.
Posted by EricaP]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:03:35 -0800 The Stranger Yep. I like open discussion

Interesting. So do I, which is precisely why I don't care for rigid, cultish belief systems, right or left, that have the effect of shutting such discussions down.

The idea that you have a better grasp on what the trans movement needs than they do is ridiculous.

Pffft. That's a cheap take down of a straw man, the implication of which is that I should shut the fuck up, not because of what I'm saying but because of who I am. What was that you said about "open discussions"? You like them, do you?

But, since you mention it, I've as much right as any other thoughtful person to opine on how the trans movement might more readily gain understanding and acceptance from the mainstream. History is full of civil rights movements, some of which have even involved people like me. Anyone can learn from that history, and you can bet the leaders who will inevitably emerge from the trans movement will have learned from those prior struggles, even if they aren't black, Jewish, female, gay, Chinese, poor, etc etc etc.

The idea that science and charm (rather that individuals doing the hard work of coming out) won gay rights is equally ridiculous

These aren't mutually exclusive. Yes, coming out comes first, and my hat is off to those with the courage to take that step. Next comes winning people over to your side. Doesn't matter who you are, you don't win over the public by forming a cult, you do it by correcting misunderstandings and bullshit with facts, and through charming representatives such as MLK, Ellen Degeneres, and Anderson Cooper.

I recommend listening to trans people rather than telling them what to do.

In other words, you recommend that I shut up. I'm getting the impression you're not actually all that interested in having an "open discussion."

Whatever. If ever you're up for having one, do let me know. I've no doubt I could learn from you, but that would likely involve me doing some of the talking.
Posted by seandr]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:16:50 -0800 The Stranger Now, for my summoning up the courage to actually
perform this in public......!!

I'll get to working on it. More later.
Posted by auntie grizelda]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:38:51 -0800 The Stranger Posted by EricaP]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:56:28 -0800 The Stranger Posted by nocutename]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:18:09 -0800 The Stranger
Monopoly and Pictionary? Fun!!
Posted by auntie grizelda]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:12:53 -0800 The Stranger
Posted by nocutename]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:02:41 -0800 The Stranger http://cardsagainsthumanity.com/
Posted by EricaP]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:51:11 -0800 The Stranger
Posted by nocutename]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:04:50 -0800 The Stranger
Perhaps the game could be combined with Monopoly or strip poker.

Posted by Anarcissie]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:53:06 -0800 The Stranger Posted by EricaP]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 12:20:50 -0800 The Stranger
Yep. I like open discussion, and I look forward to John Horstman's comments. The term "PC" shuts down conversations. It's like the term "Stalinist." When someone labels a comment "PC" I gather that they have no substantive counter-argument, but want to shut down the original comment anyway. I like serious thought about difficult cultural issues a lot more than I like this:

>>I think trans people would benefit from moving discussions to a more realistic, honest, and less polarizing place. Consider, homosexual rights weren't won by name calling and denying the truth, they were won with science and charm.>>

The idea that you have a better grasp on what the trans movement needs than they do is ridiculous. The idea that science and charm (rather that individuals doing the hard work of coming out) won gay rights is equally ridiculous. I recommend listening to trans people rather than telling them what to do. If you want a good read (she doesn't speak for everyone, but she opened my eyes to some important issues), try: Julia Serano's Whipping Girl: A Transsexual Woman on Sexism and the Scapegoating of Femininity.

Posted by EricaP]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 12:01:41 -0800 The Stranger
I'm curious what you think my use of that phrase says about me. To me, "political correct" captures a certain humorless, Victorian, hyper-moralistic mindset that feeds on judging and condemning others for falling short of its ideals. Think Dana Carvey's Church Lady armed with a different bible.

I don't register any of that from you. You seem more the open-minded and compassionate sort who seeks common ground, certainly more tolerant of the more overbearing strains of liberalism than I.
Posted by seandr]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 10:12:47 -0800 The Stranger
Posted by Hunter78]]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 06:57:13 -0800 The Stranger