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      <![CDATA[p.s.: And I say the foregoing as someone who is reconciled to the Supreme Court's interpretation of the second amendment, and who thinks that a whole lot of the gun control rhetoric is counterproductive to the point of sheer idiocy. But LaPierre's proposal was a gigantic, arrogant, right wing nut insult.
        
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      <![CDATA[It's not real often that I find myself agreeing with Goldy, who I generally regard as a typical fake-o Seattle "progressive" of the kind that sets my teeth on edge. But there are exceptions to every rule, and this column is one of them.<br />
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Wayne LaPierre actually had some good points in his speech, but the centerpiece was sufficiently phony to obscure the rest of what he said. He's an oily scumbag, and so is the National Rifle Association. The best thing, as Goldy suggests, would be to call their bluff on the cops and announce that yes, we'll do that and fund it with a tax on guns and ammo.<br />
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      <![CDATA[I loved the bumper sticker saying "Blaming guns on Columbine is like blaming a spoon for Rosie O’Donnell for being fat". It's about the idiot behind the utensil!
        
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      <![CDATA[Funny how the liberal communists get away with "fast and furious", as well as pushing the narrative for more gun control while denying the fact that Chicago and New York City have some of the highest murder rates as well as some of the stiffest gun control laws. Go figure?
        
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      <![CDATA[@beardiethor: 5 miles across? hello what are you talking about?
        
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      <![CDATA[Contrary to popular belief, Israel does not put armed guards in their schools (there are a few in the kibbutz areas which are not well insulated and experience terrorists on an almost daily basis.  Israel has checkpoints surrounding the country with armed guards at each. Some are near schools.  They would never go INSIDE the schools to scare the children.  Yet they are very effective in preventing school attacks (in fact there's never been one in Israel..tho many have been thwarted).  Israel is a very different country than many think.  At its widest width it is about 5 miles across; you can throw a rock across most of it.  Preparing safety measures in a country the size of the U.S. and using Israel is not real bright.
        
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      <![CDATA[I would be willing to go along with putting an armed guard in every school as part of a more comprehesive bill banning all automatic and semi-automatic weapons of any kind, period, along with a ban of large capacity magazines and so-called cop killer ammunition and a serious buy-back program for those weapons.
        
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      <![CDATA[How about adding a fee to the purchase of every single gun. It's hard to figure out how many guns are sold per year but one stat that is available is the number of background checks done each year for the purchase of a gun. It is roughly 17M per year. So, $18B/17M background checks is &gt;$1,000 per background check. You could just round the fee to $1,000.<br>
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http://www.businessinsider.com/number-of&hellip;<br>
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      <![CDATA[@36<br />
"I have never, not once, seen an armed guard at a bank."<br />
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<a href="http://www.krem.com/news/local/Banks-increase-security-with-armed-guards-97714209.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.krem.com/news/local/Banks-inc&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[@36, I have. Not usually, but sometimes.<br />
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I had a friend once here in Seattle, back in the 70s, who robbed a bank at gunpoint, several of them, actually; at the last one, he shot and killed the armed guard. He later hanged himself in prison. His story is in one of Ann Rule's books. We used to buy Metro bus passes from him; they sold them at banks back then. We had no idea that was how he was getting ahold of them. We thought he worked at Metro.<br />
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So there's your armed guard failure story for today.
        
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      <![CDATA[Are these going to be unionized officers?
        
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      <![CDATA[@19 second amendment fuckhead.
        
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      <![CDATA[@14,<br />
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I have never, not once, seen an armed guard at a bank.<br />
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You watch too many movies.
        
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      <![CDATA[@21  I like that - a gun owners excise tax to pay for the guards in schools.
        
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      <![CDATA[17:<br />
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Tell that to the families of the officers killed in Lakewood.<br />
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Also (as someone pointed out in another thread), one can always look to the example of armed guards (not to mention an entire array of passive deterrent systems) used in banks, none of which deter criminals from robbing banks at a rate of some 5,000 - 6,000 per year.
        
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      <![CDATA[<blockquote>"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said.</blockquote><br />
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Careful, LaPierre, that rather sounds like an invitation.
        
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      <![CDATA[@25: <i>"Apparently the Founding Fathers thought so. They were even in favor of private ownership of cannons."</i> [citation needed]<br />
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<i>Why do you think money is more important than children.</i><br />
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Why do you think your right to own as many weapons as you want of whatever kinds you want is more important than children?<br />
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Stationing an armed guard - well, really, several armed guards, because one won't really do the job - in every school in America will almost certainly <i>increase</i> the risk to children. Increased risk of accidental shooting because of the presence of weapons in school. Increased risk of deliberate shooting because of the presence of weapons in school. (Seriously - the greatest risk factor for being shot in your own house? Having a gun in your own house. You can look it up.) Increased risk overall of some sort of shooting incident. (Google "suicide by cop". What better place to make sure that works than at a school?)
        
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      <![CDATA[@30 - Yes, I got that. Blackwater was famously overpaid.
        
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      <![CDATA[@29 Blackwater would just hire "keystone cops" through some third party, and then pocket the profits.<br />
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By the way, I hope you realize I was being facetious in my original comment.
        
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      <![CDATA[@27 - Blackwater got $500K annually per person for its protective services in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile, many of our enlisted soldiers were getting $20K or less.<br />
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And they say the government is less efficient than private industry.
        
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      <![CDATA[Make them too expensive and you'll just create/continue a black market for unregistered guns.<br />
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I support gun ownership rights in principle, but I would support a reasonable annual fee, along with mandatory training and license renewal, and more stringent standards to get a license (as opposed to will-issue like we have in WA).
        
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      <![CDATA[Obviously that is too expensive. Blackwater (or whatever they changed their name to) could get the job done for a few billion less.
        
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      <![CDATA[Seventy-five dollars a year is pissing in the pot.  Make it $375/gun.  Make guns so expensive and complicated to own that even rich fools won't want them in the house.
        
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      <![CDATA[@20<br />
Apparently the Founding Fathers thought so.<br />
They were even in favor of private ownership of cannons.<br />
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Like I said, money gets an armed guard.<br />
Why do you  think money is more important than children?
        
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      <![CDATA[Your numbers were right on.  It currently costs between $125k and $150k for the high school resource officer here in  Snohomish County.  He is dedicated to the school while in session and works regular beat during the summer.  While on campus he is still expected to respond to the community on certain calls and has done so a couple of times this year.
        
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