Comments On: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things by Dan Savage

Comments On: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things by Dan Savage http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/12/19/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-fucking-things Comments On: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Tue, 21 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Tue, 21 May 2013 15:00:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by bugwitch]]> Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:56:30 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by JayeSpeaks]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:50:37 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>

It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what.

Posted by aureolaborealis]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:29:50 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by Aaron]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:53:24 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by JudT]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:35:42 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
Spoken, the phrase "why the fuck can't they pass a FUCKING BUDGET?!" may be part of an extended rant and be an appropriate crescendo, but the same phrase written includes awkward grammar and seems to be overkill to me. Better to write "why can't they pass a fucking budget?" to show the obvious irritation and avoid the double-word stumble.

Spoken words slip by quickly and might cause some immediate reaction that fades right away, so an excess of "fuck" just becomes part of the oral landscape - background if you will. Properly parsed out, the written word "fuck" can be lots and lots of things and show some thoughtful writing, with good impact, but we can't overlook the fact that written words are more permanent and consequently are held up to greater scrutiny. Just the way it is.

The real problem, in my mind, is careless writing - mindlessly blogging as if speaking - and leaving a trail to be examined and, potentially, critiqued for presentation rather than content.
Posted by Jaymz]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:33:41 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by Fnarf]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:05:11 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> "It's a shame, because with their talents, I think they could make such a huge difference."

Are you saying they haven't made a huge difference?

Well, you know, there was that whole "It Gets Better" thing... and successful campaigning for not only Marriage Equality, but legal weed, as well.... Seems like we in WA state dodged a bullet when we didn't elect that McKenna fellow, with the Stranger's strenuous help... And I seem to recall something about a Pulitzer Prize that happened, too...

I think it's pretty obvious what kind of impact The Stranger and its writers have had on this world, regardless of their potty mouths.... And, in this Christmas season, I say THANK FUCKING GOD FOR THE FUCKING STRANGER AND ALL ITS FUCKING WRITERS!!!

:-D
Posted by merry]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:40:18 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
But every day I come on here and see Dan or Dominic or some other writer screeching about injustice and unfairness and acting like the world is ending because not everyone sees things as they do. They surely seem like they want to accomplish more than a regional weekly would when they crusade for marriage equality or against charter schools.

I just feel that they do it so very poorly by only pandering to current readers rather than reaching out to those outside their small circle of readers. It's a shame, because with their talents, I think they could make such a huge difference.
Posted by Stuart MC]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:16:21 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
Joel Connolly does not equate with "old". All self-respecting old people refute any association with Joel Connolly. He's not old, he's just a priss.
Posted by sarah70]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:14:57 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
It drives me crazy when a repeated fill words crop up in spoken language, eg. "and he goes... and then she goes... and, like, they go...., like, ya know, right?"

I think some thought should be expended when writing articles that appear in the print edition of The Stranger, and I have no problem with using the word "fuck" for a reason, even if it is just to connect with a certain audience, but at least have an actual reason and not just to increase word count (are they paid by the word?)

Blogging is between those two extremes - more ephemeral and more of a "toss off" - so its Okay to throw in a random fuck now and then while waiting for the brain to actually engage.
Posted by Jaymz]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:04:21 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by Ophian]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:02:49 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by Tor]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:28:13 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
Oh and @23 - the Stranger is a regional urban arts & entertainment weekly. A fine one, but that's what it is. that's not going to change.

Oh, and fuck.
Posted by Lance Thrustwell]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:24:00 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
I agree, it's a beautiful experience being tied up and gang banged by 7 really hung studs all while it's being live streamed. Beautiful and fucking HOT!!!!
Posted by Cato the Younger Younger]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:22:35 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
It's like the way that anti-porn activists simultaneously revile and romanticize sex when they say "porn degrades a beautiful human experience".
Posted by gromm]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:07:54 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by smajor82]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:04:54 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> http://wtfpod.com
Posted by restlessnative]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:09:55 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by clashfan]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:39:25 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by yep, thesauri are online now!]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:21:13 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
They forget we need 'fuck' to keep tyranny at bay and to defend ourselves from other fuckers.

Posted by NotSean]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:18:45 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by Fnarf]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:17:29 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
I didn't think so.
Posted by ProstSeattle]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:06:36 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]> Posted by pfffter]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:58:43 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Fucking Things]]>
I will say, I notice adults 20 years my junior will use foul language in inappropriate places. I work in customer service, in a managerial position, and I can't tell you how many times I have had to take my colleagues aside and correct their language. To a person, they've all said they were unaware what they had even said. I found that very interesting, and typical of so many people in our modern world-- Speaking without even knowing what you said.
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