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You missed the mass shooting that occurred in Seattle's Rainier Beach neighborhood in July of this year. It happened shortly after Cafe Racer's shooting and received little to no coverage from the Seattle press. Six people were shot at a house party, one died later. The shooter(s) were never caught. I know that it wasn't as sensational as Racer but it still offends me that, when tallying mass gun violence, this tragic event was ignored. In my dream world, the Stranger would update their "Timeline of Mass Shootings n the Last Year." Here are details from this event via the Rainier Valley Post:<br>
rainier bvhttp://www.rainiervalleypost.com/six-people-shot-at-rainier-beach-house-party-suspects-at-large/
        
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      <![CDATA[I was disappointed that The Stranger omitted from this timeline the mass shooting that happened in July of this year. Seattle's very own Rainier Beach neighborhood: six people shot at a house party--one passed away shortly afterward. This event happened shortly after The Cafe Racer shootings and received little to no coverage from the press, (certainly none from The Stranger and very little from local Seattle news). Here is a link to the coverage via Rainier Valley Post: http://www.rainiervalleypost.com/six-peo&hellip;
        
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      <![CDATA[I believe it is intentional...I believe these attacks have  a underlying purpose....My question is who have these people become affiliated with. Who has been allowed to enter the dark  recesses of these peoples mind and fertilize the seed of insanity already there. What a horrible way to end 2012. Maybe we misinterpreted the demise of civilization as the Mayans predicted?
        
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      <![CDATA[Guns are not the problem.  They need to be guided by a person to do damage.  <br />
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Neglectful parents who (to their benefit) didn't learn how to model constructive and pro-social behavior for their children are a dangerous, growing phenomenon in our society.<br />
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Who's regulating/monitoring parenting skills?  Because we become parents doesn't give us a "free ticket" from having mental health and interpersonal communication issues which need attention. <br />
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Metaphoric to a person who seeks to acquire a gun -  a parent who is not "qualified" (has no "background check" or monitoring done for parenting/communication skills) is potentially very dangerous.  Further, parents "wrap their hands around" a child, guide/"aim" their direction, and, ultimately, pull the trigger.<br />
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What we really need to give our attention to is not the gun, but who's behind the trigger?<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[Oh, never mind, I guess that's the Aurora, CO one.
        
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      <![CDATA[What about the theater shooting at the Batman premier?  I don't see that on the list, either.
        
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      <![CDATA[It is so hard to get a person who is mentally ill the help they need if their resistant. The laws of Grave disability or danger to self or others ties mental health workers hands on a constant basis. Its not against the law to be crazy. These are the laws that need to be changed. Mentally ill persons dont get hospitalized till they do something that endangers themselves or another  person or persons!
        
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      <![CDATA[#15, I <b>know</b> that gun nuts are impossible to reason with. Yourself included. And I look at myself in the mirror at least twice a day.<br />
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And Urgutha, people who use guns to murder children are cowards.
        
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      <![CDATA[Petition by Daily Kos to the White House: <a href="http://campaigns.dailykos.com/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=276&tag=blog" rel="nofollow">http://campaigns.dailykos.com/p/dia/acti&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[24 elementary school incidents since 1995, with 54 total  dead.   275 wounded/maimed/burned horribly/still in comas.  add another 19 secondary school deaths + 23 wounded =   China isn't exactly the place to use as a role model when it comes to school killings.  Kitchen Knives, garden shears, fire bombs, motorcycles-set-ablaze, axes, homemade guns, IEDs, and THROWING KIDS TO THEIR DEATHS FROM THIRD STORY WINDOWS have been the weapons of choice in their MULTITUDE of school killings.   If anything, China makes a great case for showing how batshitcrazy ragers & haters will find a way to kill a bunch of innocent kids whether guns are banned or not. <br>
See also: banning guns in UK -in kneejerk response to a horrrible Scottish school killing, no less- while the new law eventually sent gun-only homocide rates down,  has actually made every other violent gun crime and gun-related injury violence go UP-  WAY UP:  http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlic&hellip;<br>
But, if you're going to go after weapons, make sure to ban fire.  67 dead in 2001 in kenya and 19 injured in a school killing there using only fire.  And ban bombs: the deadliest school mass killing ever (44 dead, 58 injured in 1927) was a series of bombs, not guns.<br>
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Moreover, Australia and the United States — where no gun-ban exists — both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:<br>
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Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America’s rate dropped 31.7 percent.<br>
f.y.i. I think guns should be nowhere near schools, let alone loaded ones.  But I also think gun control and mental health are not the paths to prevent yesterday's mass murder.
        
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      <![CDATA[Way to go Unpaid Intern, you've taken two things I've been crying over today and just made me angry. <br />
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It infuriates me that [Chelsea Kellogg] values the lives of Chinese children LESS because they "get to live" with fractured skulls, scarred faces and other deformities caused by this mentally unstable man that was still able to attack 22 children before anyone could stop him.. with only a KNIFE. He didn't need a gun to destroy the lives of twenty two families. <br />
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He stole a knife to carve up twenty two children so they will look in the mirror or touch the gaping hole in the back of their heads and always remember him. And what we don't know is the extent of the damage the more seriously injured (there were 3 that had to be transferred to a bigger hospital) suffered.<br />
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But thanks for putting it in *bold* just to show how different it is that they lived and how that means it's not a big deal-good to know we Americans have that to look forward to, because surviving those attacks makes it so much better. Have you ever been stabbed? Slashed? Multiple times? Watched it happen? If not, then STFU. <br />
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The shootings are a tragedy, today is a tragedy- a horrible awful day that makes my eyes swell up with tears, and my heart goes out to all the families involved. But yesterday was a tragedy too. The loss of life is terrible, but so is the destruction of it. Yes we should be grateful those children in China will have a chance hopefully to work through this and build back confidence in themselves and live a decent life. But it doesn't make what they went through any less awful. And shame on you for thinking that they don't matter.
        
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      <![CDATA[You just posted what amounts to a high score list.
        
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      <![CDATA[August 13th, 2012 in College Station, TX. You forgot that one.
        
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      <![CDATA[Honestly, I think we have a huge mental illness problem- so often, it seems like everyone close to these shooters has KNOWN that they are mentally ill, won't take medication consistently, and are thus unpredictable and dangerous. I think we should, at the very least, make it possible for people to get their dangerously mentally ill relatives on a list of people who won't pass a background check to get a firearm. Really though, I'd rather we reconsidered our policies in terms of both institutionalization and how we deal with the mentally ill in general. Aside from these mass shootings, our cities are also full of mentally ill homeless people who should honestly be much better cared for in a society like ours than they are.
        
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      <![CDATA[Matter of fact is if semi automatic weapons were banned there would have been a lot less casualties. Sure we need to help and get the the bottom of why people go crazy but if we make it a lot harder to obtain these weapons (weapons too powerful for self defense or hunting) then it would make everyone a heck of a lot safer. Period.
        
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      <![CDATA[Did you actually read the whole linked article?<br />
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Note these lines: "before being subdued by security guards who have been posted across China following a spate of school attacks in recent years" [Clearly the results would have been worse, except there are security guards posted everywhere because of knife wielding maniacs!]<br />
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Then: "echo a string of similar assaults against schoolchildren in 2010 that killed nearly 20 and wounded more than 50"<br />
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And the closing paragraph: "In one of the worst incidents, a man described as an unemployed, middle-aged doctor killed eight children with a knife in March 2010 to vent his anger over a thwarted romantic relationship."<br />
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Err. Hello? This killings obviously wouldn't have happened if these people didn't have access to knives!
        
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      <![CDATA[@1 I agree and concur with your sentiments.  I would like to suggest a comparison that helps me understand the sense of urgency:  if you come across a person who is injured and bleeding profusely, the first priority is to stem the bleeding.  Asking questions about how this person got there doesn't help stem the bleeding.  The feeling of an epidemic of gun violence in this country can be viewed as a massive trauma that must be treated.  Effective gun control would be an attempt to stem that bleeding, once the bleeding is curtailed and the victim is stable, then we can further benefit from seeking answers to the kind of questions you have posed.
        
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      <![CDATA[At least we sometimes have one, even two, whole months in a row without a gun massacre. That's great!<br />
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I suppose for 2013 we might see these run 12 months a year. And still do nothing?
        
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      <![CDATA[Ummmm gun laws have actually gotten more strict over the decades.  And the shootings you are listing have happened in the past  year.  Explain your logic please.
        
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      <![CDATA[@1.  Because people are violent.  Inherent part of the human condition.  The method matters because it significantly ups the body count.  Lots of people feel like this guy did (FBI guy said millions fit the profile).  Lack of access to efficient weapons lowers the media presence of whatever violence they do commit, so we don't hear about it.  And they tend to keep it in the family, so again, we tend not to care.  <br>
There is significant stigma, especially for males, to get help with mental health issues, long term or temporary.  There are economic, social and personal consequences to getting sufficient help for a serious problem.  It's likely he did have health coverage that would have paid for treatment (mom a state employee, he under 26 y.o.).  A mental hospital would also probably only have kept him in for a few weeks.  You can't involuntarily commit in CT (there are very good reasons why, as you can imagine), and the mentally ill don't tend to be any more violent than the general population, so even treating mental illness isn't necessarily a help.<br>
I actually doubt there was any real strong reason he killed the kids.  He wanted to hurt and kill his mom, the rest of it was a bonus.  What does their death matter when he feels life is shit?  Maybe felt he was doing them a favor.
        
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      <![CDATA[@27 Fear and love are not the only emotions on the life line. There are a whole litany of other emotions that are available.<br />
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In the case of today's shootings, @27 I think has it as desperation as well as frustration and anger and mental illness.  The shooter's mother was a kindergarten teacher. I don't think it's much of a coincidence that he shot mainly in the kindergarten. <br />
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Urgurtha is right in asking the questions of "why?" But GUNS seems to be what everybody wants to talk about instead.  Why? Because its easier.
        
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      <![CDATA[It is happening because people are bastards. Fundamentally, to each other, to the mentally unstable (who the go bastard on other people) to the young to the old, to the weak. Human psycho nature is why this happened.<br>
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The focus on the weapon used is relevant because no guns = less (or even no) massacres, because a knife wielding bastard can kill far fewer people (or as yesterday in china, NONE AT ALL) than in the same time period as a gunman, you also have to be closer, you're also easier to stop. Crazy, non gun, massacres require physically intimacy, guns allow emotional distance.<br>
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Less guns = less mass murders.<br>
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"A school shooting is an incident in which gun violence occurs at an educational institution."<br>
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UK, 'school shootings' since 1992 = 1. It led to stricter gun control and essentially an end to private gun ownership. <br>
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Canada 'school shootings' since 1992 = 0 due to much stricter gun controls brought about by the 1989 massacre. Several of these were repealed in April 2012, we have yet to see how this will go (it is still waaay harder to get a gun in Canada than the US)<br>
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USA, 'school shootings' since 1992 = 50+ (there are so many i lost count.) 7 of them killed more than 5 people in the single incident, 3 of them killed more than 15 - a feat which is unlikely to have been achieved with a knife, sword or axe. None of these led to strict gun control.<br>
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And that's just in the schools and universities, the Aurora massacre and others like it do not figure in these statistics.
        
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      <![CDATA[@37,<br />
Thanks Kim, I don't think your suggestions sound lame. I think your fourth point is one that really strikes hardest. Some people in favor of gun control essentially go as far as to suggest repealing the second amendment... but what about the first amendment? It's terrible to shoot up a school, but isn't it also terrible to use one's voice to work people (sometimes dangerous people) into a violent frenzy?<br />
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If we limit the second amendment in order to make people feel safer, then why can't we also limit freedom of speech to make people feel safer? (I'm kinda being devil's advocate here, but only kinda)<br />
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Things to think about.
        
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