Comments On: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today by Dan Savage http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/11/22/uganda-may-pass-kill-the-gays-law-today Comments On: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Mon, 20 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Mon, 20 May 2013 17:00:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by thelyamhound]]> Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:29:59 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by venomlash]]> Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:37:32 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
Damn.

Why can't we just be more like the Bonobos?
Posted by UWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!...]]> Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:27:22 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> But not nearly as ludicrous as attributing human cultural xenophobia to evolutionary forcing. Homosexual activity is not only common but ubiquitous in bonobos, our closest extant relatives, and yet there is no "instinctive rejection" that you claim (without evidence) humans exhibit.
Posted by venomlash]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:14:10 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
well of course.

(you must get paid by the word.
where can The Troll get a gig like that?)
Posted by ...were you saying somethings?]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:46:21 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
oh look- a little ray of sunshine!
Posted by the pain! the PAAAAIIIN!!!]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:42:46 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
Agreed.

The Troll advocates responsible behavior as a path to eradicating AIDS and other STDs. (speaking particularly of America)

What does Ken suggest?
Posted by feel free to consult the CDC before answering....]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:38:43 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
Um, you know that HIV in Africa is a disease of straight people right? Straight married women often get it from their polygamous, non-condom using husbands. Gay male sex --> HIV is a western phenomenon.
Posted by Confluence]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:48:18 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> So if homosexuality is natural and conveys evolutionary advantage on the tribe why is revulsion and loathing of homosexuality ubiquitous in the species?The question of whether any given proclivity (or behavior arising from that proclivity) is natural is entirely separate from the question of whether it conveys evolutionary advantage, since, within the parameters of what science can observe, evolution isn't goal oriented, and neutral variations or adaptations are as likely to persist as advantageous ones.

That homosexuality could be called natural (to the degree that said word is even particularly useful) is illustrated by the remarkable consistency of rates at which homosexuality occurs in human cultures regardless of the level of acceptance, which reflects the consistency with which homosexual acts occur in other mammalian species.

As to why it's greeted with revulsion, most species will tend to shy away from deviations from the norm. Look at how most mammalian populations will react to an albino. Hell, look at how left-handedness was treated historically--across all races, cultures, and geographic locations.
It is almost as if humanity is hard wired with instinctive rejection of a deviant behavior that poses great danger to the health and survival of the species...
You have yet to demonstrate that homosexuality poses great danger to the health and survival of the species.
So why do you think 'Anti-gay hysteria is prevalent in most places in the world' ?
Aside from natural fear of otherness, the common thread I see in politicized fear of homosexuality, if you control for the pervasive global influence of religion (and hence take that off the table as a separate, but still valid, matter), can be traced to Lenin and Stalin's stated beliefs that sex for pleasure (as opposed to procreation) is a bourgeois indulgence, an attitude I've often seen reflected (or refracted) in the rhetoric of the working-class religious. I suspect that it is, at root, a procreative anxiety, though I think such anxiety is misplaced. After all, if acceptance or non-acceptance of homosexuality doesn't seem to have much effect on its incidence, then acceptance is not likely to have any notable effect on the number of breeding pairs.

Posted by thelyamhound]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:16:04 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by Tetchy Brit]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:31:58 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by Ken Mehlman]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:17:13 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by iraqi272]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:41:57 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Not"...worth anyone dying over."
Agreed.
The 'gay lifestyle' leads to 20% (so far) HIV rates (among sexually active homosexual men, according to the CDC)
How do you think deadly lifestyle choices should be treated by society?
Posted by AIDS killed 50,000 Americans in just one year....]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:06:27 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
But why would humanity instinctively reject so violently an evolutionary development that was beneficial?
Posted by gy8787rtd]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:02:45 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by rootwinterguard]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:02:13 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by Queer Bait]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:01:09 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
oh Chuck...hate is not the answer.

it only eats you up and leaves you a hollow bitter dried out husk.

Assuming everyone who disagrees with you is a 'christian' must make life easy and require, gosh, NO thinking whatsoever on your part.
Again, well played.
(and original. The Troll has never heard THAT one before either)

So why do you think 'Anti-gay hysteria is prevalent in most places in the world' ?
Posted by Sorry Charlie]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:57:33 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
I can keep going all day but the long and short of it is that none of these reasons, or any other reason, is worth anyone dying over.
Posted by GhostDog]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:50:35 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by DRF]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:26:19 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
Many, if not most, are, Christian Troglodyte.

Your Gay grandchildren hate you. Good.
Posted by Charles Maguro]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:18:39 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
That's a very intelligent comment, Chuck.
Assuming everyone who disagrees with you is a repressed homosexual must make life easy and require, gosh, NO thinking whatsoever on your part.
Well played.
(and original. The Troll has NEVER heard that one before)

So why do you think (do you ever think?); as Confluence stated; 'Anti-gay hysteria is prevalent in most places in the world' ?
Posted by is it because all gays are as likable and witty as you?]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 06:59:40 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> I know it's hard for you to stop thinking about guy-buttsex, but if you just don't have any buttsex with guys, you win. Problem solved.

What? You can't stop thinking about homosex? Oh dear. Not MY problem....


Posted by Charles Maguro]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 06:34:38 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]> Posted by Moonmaid]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 06:27:55 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
So if homosexuality is natural and conveys evolutionary advantage on the tribe why is revulsion and loathing of homosexuality ubiquitous in the species?

Across all races, cultures, geographic locations?

It is almost as if humanity is hard wired with instinctive rejection of a deviant behavior that poses great danger to the health and survival of the species.....
Posted by Inconvenient Truths]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:46:47 -0800 The Stranger <![CDATA[Re: Uganda May Pass "Kill the Gays" Law Today]]>
So there are 70,000 Catholic bigots around Paris. Don't want to meet any of them.

Many French heterosexuals support "marriage for all". I hope we'll win this together, just like y'all did in Washington State. And if we don't win this time around, we'll win next time.
Posted by sissoucat]]> Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:07:55 -0800 The Stranger