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      <![CDATA[@8 @9 I have a detailed post (with pictures!) from last week in which I step you through the <a href="http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/11/05/ohmigod-what-the-fuck-has-happened-to-my-ballot" rel="nofollow">ballot counting process.</a><br />
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But in short, ballots are verified and scanned prior to election day, the data stored on a secure server. But the results are not tallied until election night. (That is, they run some code that tallies the results.) It's kind of a technicality, but apparently a legal one.
        
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      <![CDATA[@4,<br />
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I don't support this idea at all, but Sam Reed played it straight down the middle back when Gregoire was involved in the closest race I can remember in the state with Dino Rossi - despite considerable pressure from local and national members of his party to tip the scales in Rossi's favor.  <br />
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      <![CDATA[Ballots cannot be counted before election day. There was a lawsuit about 15 years ago in Pierce county where they were counting absentee ballots ahead of time so they could announce these results along with the results from the polling places on election night. Election workers can only verify signatures before Election Day, counting cannot happen until after the polls close.<br />
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      <![CDATA[Stupid question from a Midwestern transplant: Are the ballots counted as they are received, or are they stored for counting on election day?<br />
Seems like they'd have to either deal with leaks of results before E Day, or worry about a bunch of early ballots being stolen.<br />
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I just had a great idea for a heist film...
        
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      <![CDATA[@4 It's all about reducing turnout.  It's not a coincidence that the guy advocating for the change is a Republican and the guy advocating for mailing up until the last minute is a Democrat.  Republicans are all about throwing obstacles in the path of voters to discourage turnout.  Now, instead of mailing it on Election Day, we have to figure out when is our last day to mail it?  And what the hell is the rush? Really.  Who the hell cares at all if we're the last state to certify our election (which I don't think we are)?  Who cares what the other states think of us?  What is this garbage about "meaningful results"?  "Oh my god!  I can't sleep tonight because I don't know who's going to be Secretary of State!"  Bloody garbage.  Whenever someone starts appealing to your sense of shame and adequacy, it's total garbage.  It's 100% a made-up crisis.  <br />
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It's not about "meaningful results" and "voting efficiency".  It's about voter suppression.  Repeat after me: "Voter suppression."<br />
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I don't give a damn if it takes three months so long as turnout is as close to 100% as possible, and voting is as easy as convenient as possible.  Right now, we have the most perfect system in the nation.  We really do.  That doesn't go well with Republicans because they want a bloody mess they can manipulate to their ends.  Therefore, they want to make it as inconvenient as they can.  That's all this is.  Notice who's making an issue of it: Local media and Republicans.  I rest my case.
        
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      <![CDATA[eVoting now!
        
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    <author><![CDATA[rob!]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Having watched that clip, I'm all nostalgic for the days of gentlemanly, honorable, Buddy Ebsen-ish Republicans instead of pyrotechnic fucktards.
        
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      <![CDATA[Wouldn't this change also reduce voter turnout in effect from liberal King County, which tends to vote later?<br />
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Reed is a Republican. I smell a big dirty-as-fucking-John-Husted rat here. Goldy, am I wrong?
        
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      <![CDATA[Why are these Oregon slaves working like that? To steal our jobs and ruin our economy? Like we needed more reason to hate them. California's Canada. That's all they are.
        
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      <![CDATA[But Washington State USPS is totally different than Oregon USPS!<br />
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Because ... um.
        
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