http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/11/15/the-idf-and-gaza Comments On: The IDF and Gaza by Charles Mudede en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Thu, 23 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Thu, 23 May 2013 14:15:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
Yet here is a high-ranking Israeli general that says the BLOCKADE of Gaza by Israel should end. [Blockading the Gazans is easier for the Israelis than occupying. But almost as deadly.]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-de…
Posted by Linda J]]> Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:30:17 -0800 The Stranger
It is not just Gaza. There is a reason that basically only America thinks that Israel is not an illegal invading army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_set…
Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 06:39:31 -0800 The Stranger
The thought was that by leaving the Palestinians alone and letting them run the place, they might become less interested in pushing the Jews into the sea.

That didn't work out, rockets kept a flying from Gaza into Israel (have to prove that they're still fighting the good fight, regardless of it's effectiveness), and the IDF responded with Cast Lead in late 2008 to 2009 (about three weeks).

That didn't work out either, mostly because the Egypt - Gaza border is incredibly porous and Hamas can smuggle in small arms and small rockets easily.

Barring an actual reoccupation of Gaza by the IDF, the rockets will continue to fly as they have for years. They'll muddle through various low intensity wars for years, until both sides finally figure out that neither has both the means and the will to defeat the other.
Posted by Sam Levine]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:49:08 -0800 The Stranger
Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip seven years ago, in the face of major opposition from the country's right wing. Were Hamas not deliberately provoking Israel, there would be no new invasion.

And illegally invaded? Illegally occupied maybe, but war (which was not started by Israel, for the record) often has the unfortunate result of the victor occupying the losers' land.

It's too bad that the Palestinians chose Hamas to run Gaza. Had they made even the slightest attempt to coexist peacefully, perhaps the left wing in Israel could have successfully fought for withdrawal from the West Bank, but now who knows if that will ever happen.
Posted by keshmeshi]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:46:34 -0800 The Stranger
It's the only attribute of the rockets that could possibly be called "efficacious."


Posted by opticsdoug]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:05:29 -0800 The Stranger
"...atrocities committed by Israel be anti-arabic, and just as bad?"

Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:56:44 -0800 The Stranger
The invading army does not get to call "defense" when the subjugated fire back. The invading army is never on "defense."

I feel for the innocent slaughtered on both sides, but Israel does not get a free pass on what they do every day to the Palestinians.

I hear you say on here that critique of Israel that does not always also reference the atrocities committed by Palestine is by default anti-semitic. By that same token, would not critiques of Palestine without the acknowledgement of the atrocities committed by Israel anti-arabic, and just as bad?
Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:54:43 -0800 The Stranger Posted by samktg]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:23:12 -0800 The Stranger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian…

The rockets seem more like a political tool that *both* governments use to wag their respective dogs with a criminal indifference to primary or retaliatory casualties.
Posted by opticsdoug]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:02:20 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Sargon Bighorn]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:26:25 -0800 The Stranger Posted by samktg]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:53:45 -0800 The Stranger
Don't get me wrong, Israel is all kinds of fucking wrong. But I think that thesis is more wishful thinking than reality.
Posted by Rotten666]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:39:12 -0800 The Stranger Posted by seandr]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:30:54 -0800 The Stranger