http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/11/14/woman-dies-after-being-denied-an-abortion Comments On: Woman Dies After Being Denied an Abortion by Dan Savage en-us Copyright 2013 The Stranger. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, The Stranger readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact The Stranger. webmaster@thestranger.com (The Stranger Webmaster) Sat, 18 May 2013 00:00:01 -0700 Sat, 18 May 2013 19:00:00 -0700 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
Is everyone certain that if these doctor's had performed the abortion, that it would have been done safely and she would still be alive? If they were not custom to performing abortions, how can we know that they would have done the procedure correctly, and her life would have saved?

Many women have had their lives ruined by legalized abortion. Here is a small example of what can happen if you get a legal abortion and it goes wrong. This is the tip of the iceberg! http://www.whatyouknowmightnotbeso.com/u…

Here's a list of women who have died from legal abortions -
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/08/27/stude…

Here's another list
http://www.lifedynamics.com/Pro-life_Gro…

You can also google search and find articles about the deplorable and unsanitary conditions at Planned Parenthood.

God will always be there forever. HE IS ALIVE AND GOOD! Men and women are fallen, and we desperately need Jesus to save us all.

Mothers and babies both need to be cared for in pregnancies.
Posted by PEC7]]> Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:26:23 -0800 The Stranger
this poor woman is the victim of socialized medicine
Posted by nhd89gtgbguugf90i9wgyvwc]]> Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:09:05 -0800 The Stranger It is YOU who MURDER--not a zygote, not an unviable fetus, but a adult woman begging for her life who took days to die.
Posted by jsmu]]> Sat, 17 Nov 2012 07:43:04 -0800 The Stranger Thousands die each year in need of kidneys and livers transplants. We can donate these organs while living and for the most part survive the donation without complications. Yet people die because we do not give a right for anyone, even when dying to demand human parts from the living (or the dead for that matter). Yet when this equation is a woman, there is arguing that a fetus and society have full rights to demand partial ownership of women’s bodies. Women who stand up for our full citizenship rights are too often painted as blood thirsty murderers or too ignorant to understand.
Posted by Rori_72]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:53:01 -0800 The Stranger article, and it doesn't make a distinction between Ireland and Northern Ireland.
Posted by Knat]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:13:26 -0800 The Stranger
Leviticus 17:11:

"For the life of the flesh is in the blood"

Therefore, one could argue biblically that until the fetus becomes infused with blood, roughly seven weeks in, it is not actually alive, and therefore not a person.


Posted by Theodore Gorath]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:43:34 -0800 The Stranger
I wouldn't say that was exactly the definition- as pointed out in Roe vs. Wade, it was basically acceptable to terminate a pregnancy in the first trimester for centuries, but once it "quickened" (aka you could feel it moving), it had a soul and was supposed to be kept. That's actually part of what derived the trimester-system: in the first trimester, you can terminate your pregnancy for any reason, partly because the fetus is fairly inconsequential, but partly because that's the way it's been for centuries. Third trimester abortion is pretty restricted for similar reasons- traditionally, delivering in the third trimester would get you a premature/stillborn baby, not a miscarriage.
Posted by alguna_rubia]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:50:45 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Doctor Memory]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:25:54 -0800 The Stranger Posted by PCM]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:11:24 -0800 The Stranger
What really pisses me off about the current abortion "debate" is the way the Bible-based "pro-lifers" adopt snippets of knowledge from modern science to support their position. That's not how science works. You can't pick and choose little snippets of reality when it's convenient to your theological argument and ignore the rest the rest of the time. They should stick to their Bibles. The traditional, Biblical definition of human life is pretty much the same one mankind used up until a couple decades ago. Breathing air with your own two lungs, after possibly a little swat on the bottom to jump-start things. Until then, human (and all) reproduction is just a sequence of potentials, even with all our scientifically-revealed knowledge of many of the details.

This expressed desire from the right-wing religious anti-abortion zealots, to declare every fertilized egg a human being, is pure craziness. Hmmm... Can we make them spend $10,000 on an elaborate funeral for every one that spontaneously dies? For the glory of God, and all that?
Posted by Brooklyn Reader]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:20:26 -0800 The Stranger
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/…
Posted by Sarichan who can't log atm]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:32:19 -0800 The Stranger
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/…
Posted by Sarichan]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:28:09 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Lissa]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:53:29 -0800 The Stranger Posted by FranKlingo]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:48:45 -0800 The Stranger
The woman, however, did not have to die. Had they done a D&C, and administered antibiotics appropriately, she likely would have survived this, although I'm sure she wouldn't have been happy about losing the baby.

This wasn't a choice to abort or not to abort. The choice was to save the life of this woman or not and the doctors choose to not save her life in favor of extending the life of the fetus that was dying and killing her in the process.

If this is "God's will" then why do we even have doctors in the first place? Then, cancer, heart disease, small pox, plague, and all other diseases are also "God's will". Who are we to try and stop them?
Posted by SherBee]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:20:24 -0800 The Stranger Posted by catballou]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:57:05 -0800 The Stranger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A,_B_and_C_…

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_Ge…
Posted by kettleen]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:29:13 -0800 The Stranger Posted by ribs]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:34:00 -0800 The Stranger Posted by CbytheSea]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:32:12 -0800 The Stranger
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/27/us/stu…

Miscarriages are nature or biology (or some would say God) indicating that all the conditions that produce a healthy baby are not present. It may be problems with the fetus or the mother. In many cases, the cause is not known.

So to assert that all the pregnancies that are terminated by abortion would have resulted in a live birth is simply factually wrong.

The question I want to ask the faithful is: Being that we are all God's creations, why can we not use our medical knowledge and our wisdom in determining which pregnancies will result in a child being born? In addition to the physiologically factors which create miscarriages, there are social, psychological, and yes, financial factors that indicate conditions are not right to continue a pregnancy.

That whole debate doesn't even apply to the tragic situation in the Irish story. They chose to sacrifice the life of the pregnant woman to allow the heart to beat for a few more days in a fetus they knew would never survive. No argument for that will ever make sense to me.
Posted by TheOtherWoman]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:30:59 -0800 The Stranger
Now, if the slog masters can figure out how to make an error message appear that prevents it from posting in the first place. I've seen blogs with fugly, outdated styles and features that won't let you post when you fuck up the tags. How come Slog allows it?
Posted by Matt from Denver]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:20:35 -0800 The Stranger You've ranted quite a bit about how important fetus's are and how we shouldn't allow women to get abortions. Please tell me exactly how preventing this woman from getting an abortion helped her fetus. The fetus was dying. The choice here was never to kill a child or not to kill a child. The only choice available was to save the life of the woman or not save the life of the woman. They chose not to save the life of this woman. Please explain exactly how that choice was "pro-life".
Posted by Root]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:03:19 -0800 The Stranger He said he liked the idea of joining the republic but only when they became as secular as the UK. Being gay and Protestant would be quite difficult in a self-described Catholic nation.
And troll, this was a medical screw up, but it was aided by a fanatical sense of pro-lifeiness. But your world view doesn't seem to allow a deeper understanding of cultural context and how it interacts with the law.
Posted by CbytheSea]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:59:08 -0800 The Stranger Posted by keshmeshi]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:37:46 -0800 The Stranger Posted by Ken Mehlman]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:36:46 -0800 The Stranger