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      <![CDATA[@53: Generally speaking, people don't transition on a whim. Have there been actual cases of men dressing as women only to go into a women's locker room and sneak a peek? I don't think so, but if you can find evidence of some examples, I'm open to them.
        
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      <![CDATA[Have single-user restroom and changing facilities available. That way preoperative transsexuals who feel uncomfortable about it can have some privacy, and paranoid pearl-clutchers can go in there themselves if they feel worried about the possibility of transsexuals using the regular changing room.
        
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      <![CDATA[You're taking Schram's ridiculous, homophobic, gender minorities might be child molesters baiting and losing a more important point he does indeed make.  Any human with a penis that appeared reasonably to penis to the average person would be arrested in 99.9% of settings if they used a female locker room. Evergreen apparently doesnt follow this policy and that is weird to me, sorry. The pedophile thing ruins his whole argument, and its a shame, and he is a horrible person because he finds slivers of truths then makes sure no one else will ever be able to see them because he's such a horrible person.
        
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      <![CDATA[Wait a tick. Several of you seem to be arguing I as a male with a dick should be able to use female facilities simply because it is my whim to identify as a female. Yes. That's what many of you are implying or even directly arguing in the weird name of tolerance. <br />
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Please qualify your statements before allowing me to do what i proposed and being arrested.
        
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      <![CDATA[Can we just section bathrooms off by age? Does that cause all sorts of other problems? Why do we even care so much who the person next to us taking a dump is. If a child is young enough to be scared by a trans person they should need an escort with them, don't some places have family bathrooms? Let's get some of those to protect the children? Or something?
        
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      <![CDATA[Gosh, has anyone told that poor man that he's just recycling tired old transphobic arguments from second-wave feminists? I mean, it's on tape and everything, someone should really tell him before he makes another embarrassing gaffe.
        
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      <![CDATA[Today's short attention spans are amazing. Some of you may remember that a primary reason to uphold "Don't Ask Don't Tell" was that fear-mongering Neanderthals argued gay men and women would turn military barracks into hard-breathing brothels... Even FOX News has not had any such stories in this first year since the law was repealed.<br>
As a trans woman who had to endure years of processing various IDs, go through hundreds of gatekeepers before I could get my surgery, I can assure you that despite my lesbian orientation I was never excited about having sex in a public bathroom. But then, I am not Catholic. Before anyone makes crazy accusations, I invite you to walk a mile in my size 14 heels....
        
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      <![CDATA["I wonder if one solution would be to provide some private stalls/private showers - not perfect, but maybe an improvement over the current situation."<br />
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Because, there aren't any ?<br />
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The swimming pool I go to has no male/female separation : it's all individual changing stalls and one big common shower area. Males and females shower together, wearing their bathing suits. To wash your privates you put your soapy hands inside your bathing suit. Nobody's naked and nobody leers. Problem solved.<br />
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Mixed-gender restrooms with stalls would also solve the toilet problem. We all have to pee, male and female, cis or trans. Why should we segregate according to gender in order to do so ?<br />
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Besides, it would also help single mothers with sons. I hate having to let my teen son out of my sight and hearing in public restrooms - it's not safe. But he's too old now to get into the women's room with me and the younger ones. This male/female segregation is really, really dumb for everybody.
        
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      <![CDATA[Not to mention trans women are at far higher risk of assault when around cismen in a locker room or bathroom. I think a trans woman in a city hall said it best, "Sometimes I just have to pee." <br>
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http://lillyslabyrinth.blogspot.com/2012&hellip;<br>
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The boogeyman callouts and "I'm really just uncomfortable with a potential for dongs" is so exasperating for me! I swear, I am not trying to flash anybody, I just want to go swimming. By all means, chip in for my surgery if you want to rid the world of the evil evil penis, but there's a point where a trans woman has been on hormones for two years and looks totally like a lady with the exception of bottom surgery. Would you have this woman use a male locker room just because you're uncomfortable? http://theblogismine.theblogismineltd.ne&hellip;
        
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      <![CDATA[Did you know Ken Schram condemned his son to a prolonged and painful death in the early 1980's because his church believes a burst appendix should be cured by praying?<br>
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      <![CDATA[#36 - I use a guy's locker room because I am a guy. My wife uses the women's locker room because she is a woman.
        
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      <![CDATA[OK a little Trans101. When we use the restroom of our chosen gender, it is because we need to pee (or poo). When we use the locker room of our chosen gender, it isn't to leer at naked girls. It is to get dressed (or shower or go to the restroom...). The bathroom thing is a dog whistle the other side likes to use on Trans folks now that it no longer works on gay men.
        
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      <![CDATA[Considering that my trans friend (who presents male and is leaning that way now) was nearly raped in a womens bathroom by a man who security watched follow them in there, I would say we need to do a lot more to promote trans rights than worry that a teenager might see a trans woman's pee pee.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[AnotherGirlNextDoor]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[As a trans woman living in Seattle I'd just like to thank everyone here for supporting our community.  Seattle has recently become a  city that seems to accept it's trans populace and celebrate them along with the rest of our diversity. Trans people know it's complicated, we are not unaware, one does not transition in a vacuum. The future has trans people in it, no matter what, and the smart thing to do is figure out how to make that work. Luckily, Seattle is a pretty smart town.<br>
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This woman obviously did nothing wrong. This video is not only obviously disgusting, but should give pause to anyone who finds themselves agreeing with it's sentiment.
        
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      <![CDATA[@38 agree.<br />
        
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      <![CDATA[@39,<br />
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I can understand why both transmen and transwomen would prefer to use women's facilities and take part in women's activities.  Transmen because they aren't regarded as "real" men, and the risk of being the victim of anti-trans violence is too great.  (Women don't exactly have a track record of beating, raping, or murdering transgender people.)  And transwomen because that's who they are, and also anti-trans violence.<br />
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But we still seem to be heading in the direction of: cisgendered men and everyone else.  And that everyone else is getting lumped into women's spaces is just something that cisgendered women have to suck up and deal with (according to the commenter @17 and 18).
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Soupytwist]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[The woman in question was in the sauna when she was seen - and I've been in that sauna, children aren't allowed in that sauna, so I'm questioning WHO saw what... <br />
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@35 - The high school and the swim club use the facilities due to Evergreen's generous choice to open their facilities to the community. Those people know what kind of place Evergreen is - their sense of entitlement and different values than Evergreen is what should be at issue.<br />
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It's times like these that I am even more proud to be a Greener.<br />
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P.S. You capitalize "the" in The Evergreen State College (TESC).
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Asparagus!]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[#36<br />
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I'm a cisgendered, straight, traditionally attractive male and I've felt intensely  uncomfortable in men's locker rooms. I can hardly blame anybody who deviates from the norm at all for feeling the same.  <br />
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I think a lot of people agree that men's behaviour in places where they think they are safe from criticism is a huge problem.
        
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      <![CDATA[Gotta say that I agree with 15 here!  The video is obviously ridiculous, but this issue itself seems like a difficult one.  I wonder if one solution would be to provide some private stalls/private showers - not perfect, but maybe an improvement over the current situation.  I feel like acting like this is no big deal is pretty dismissive of all the women out there who have been victims of sexual assault and may be rightly freaked out by suddenly seeing a penis in what they perceive to be a single-gender area.  And if I were a parent, I probably wouldn't want my kid randomly seeing a stranger's penis either (dad/brother is really, really different). Bottom line is, in a naked-person situation, it's going to be impossible to tell what 'gender' someone is when they've got a penis hanging out there, and given the context of sexual violence against women in our society, it's not hard to imagine while many women and girls will be really uncomfortable.<br />
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Note - I think this is really, really different from general bathroom issues where there is no public nudity.  In that case, presumably no one is the wise and I don't see the issue.
        
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      <![CDATA[Wow. How homophobic of him. Maybe he is jealous and wants to be the pervert he fantasizes about. Of course, if a woman felt like someone was not being respectful in a locker room, she would say something. It's also nobody's business what is in anyone else's underwear unless one is becoming consensually intimate.
        
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      <![CDATA[Among many questions I have, one that sticks out is:  what do transmen do?  Do transmen use men's locker rooms and bathrooms, or do they use the women's facilities?  For a number of reasons and based on a few anecdotes, I suspect they use the latter, in which case it seems like gender is getting divided along two lines:  cisgendered men and everyone else.  Am I the only one who sees a problem with that?
        
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      <![CDATA[@34,<br />
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Evergreen shares its locker rooms with a high school and a swimming club that young children apparently belong to.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Geni]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I'm with @28 on this one. Please, there's someone at Evergreen who's never seen a transgender person? REALLY? Besides, I'm quite sure if this were 1958, there'd be people making the same lame sorts of excuses about how uncomfortable it makes them that the "colored people" use the same toilets. Thankfully, we've moved beyond THAT idiocy - maybe we can move on to accepting that transgender persons are not men in drag, they are not pedophiles and perverts, and they should not be forced to use the restroom of the gender with which they do not identify.<br />
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I've never really gotten the restroom freakouts anyway. Doesn't everyone pretty much grow up in a household where they share a bathroom with siblings or other family members with differing parts?
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Urgutha Forka]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[NEWSFLASH TO PARENTS!<br />
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Your precious snowflakes have already seen everything you don't want them to see. They've already heard everything you don't want them to hear. They've already done everything you don't want them to do.<br />
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Your kids have already grown up. Please do the same.
        
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      <![CDATA[What @15 said. Ridiculous video, but this subject is not a no brainer. And this issue is in need of discussion. <br>
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I heard about this story a few weeks back here;<br>
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http://bugbrennan.com/2012/11/03/watchin&hellip;<br>
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and I have noticed some debate on sex vs. gender is going on here; <br>
http://sexnotgender.wordpress.com/<br>
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