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      <![CDATA[Paul,<br />
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You couldn't be more wrong about "Cell"  "Cell" is one of King's best, and I don't like a lot of Stephen King.  "It" is really good and scary.  "'Salem's Lot" is good when it doesn't deal with asides about the townspeople and sticks to the main character.  "The Stand" is too long and King usually can't wrap things up or write a decent ending to save his life.<br />
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As for "Cell," i picked it up in an airport bookstore, something I almost never do, hoping for just a fun, summer book, blahblahblah.  "Cell" was incredibly engaging, emotionally engaging.  I loved the story.  I loved the characters.  It felt original to me, and terrifying at times.  It was sad and heartbreaking.  It was surprising and fun and scary.  It was really good writing.<br />
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Also, I've tried reading "Lisey's Story" about three times, and just can not get into it.  And "The Dead Zone" is also one of King's best novels.<br />
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Oh, and his book on writing was a great read.<br />
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So, there, Paul.  EAT IT. :)<br />
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      <![CDATA[Misery is a great book, and probably King's best. And some of his short stories will stand the test of time. Paragraph by paragraph, King and Crichton don't produce great literary writing, but at their best, they tell stories that inspire compulsive reading. I'm not about to compare either one to Dickens, but I do think they're underrated.<br />
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But Duma Key is shit. Any book whose antagonist is a mental fungus named the Bad Gunky deserves to be torn in half and thrown away.
        
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      <![CDATA[Dickens was unappreciated in his time.<br />
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King is unappreciated in his time.<br />
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Therefore, King is Dickens.<br />
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      <![CDATA[@18 - Have you ever read GMF's nonfiction, specifically Quartered Safe Out Here, about the campaign in Burma?  Single best war memoir EVER.  And The Steel Bonnets may be one of the best pieces of geohistory ever written.  But my favorite of all his books has to be Flashman In the Great Game.<br />
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      <![CDATA[oh, no, the restored version of The Stand was awful! I looked forward to it when I heard about it, but once I read it, I realized how truly valuable editors are...<br />
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"It" would have been a gread book if King could have put his ego aside long enough to listen to an editor and get it down to a managable length.<br />
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    <author><![CDATA[Thinner was a great story, as was Eaters of the Dead]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I don't really give a rat's ass whether it's "hip" to hate these guys or not. I like both of them, and am looking forward to reading these.
        
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      <![CDATA[In full disclosure, I am also a fan of The Monkees, Catch 22 (the book AND the movie), Zardoz, The Justice League, Kraft Macaroni and Cheese and get grief over them as well.
        
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      <![CDATA[Awesome...except it's been done already, in Comic form, by the Luna Brothers (albeit with different implications):<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_(comics">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_(comi&hellip;</a>)
        
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      <![CDATA[i know everyone has already said it but this sounds ridiculously similar to the simpsons movie.
        
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      <![CDATA[Fraser kicked ass. It's still too bad he never wrote the Civil War book, but it never could have lived up to the anticipation.  And my kids have made me read all three McAuslan books to them twice through.
        
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      <![CDATA[Certainly some of King's oeuvre is shit - show me an author who bats it out of the park every time, and I'll show you an author who only wrote one book (Harper Lee, I'm looking at you).  But some of his stuff - Bag of Bones, The Body, The Talisman (with Peter Straub), Dolores Claiborne, Lisey's Story, The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon - while, perhaps not the best LITERARY fiction of our day, are certainly among the best STORIES.  He's a great storyteller, as was Charles Dickens.  It's popular to crap on him, as it was with Dickens in his time.<br />
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He wrote what I consider the single scariest woman-on-the-run-from-abusive-spouse novel EVER in Rose Madder (and the single scariest villain in Frank - much more frightening than any supernatural character he's ever written).<br />
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And I loved Duma Key.  Sure, parts of it get a bit silly, but it's still a great STORY.<br />
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Full disclosure: I've written exactly three fan letters in my life - to Robert Heinlein, George MacDonald Fraser, and Stephen King - and only sent the one to Stephen King, and he replied, with a personal note.  I thought that was pretty classy of him.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't know about The Simpsons, but the plot of King's new novel sounds like he cribbed it from the old Arch Oboler 3-D movie The Bubble. Arch probably got it from somewhere else.
        
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      <![CDATA[In regards to Stephen King, count me in as a fan, he was the first author I read who seemed to talk like me, or at least someone I might hang out with.<br />
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I haven't read anything since Needful Things do to personal reasons, but have picked up all of his subsequent hardback books at Goodwill for $3 each).  I will read them, but not until I read "Under The Dome" which I have been hearing about for decades.<br />
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King excels in the long form.  The Stand (long version) should be to future generations what Dune and The Lord of the Rings were for past generations.<br />
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And I read "It" in one 17 hour sitting and almost cried at the end when it was over. So, I'm a sucker, but the characters in "It"  seemed to be going through the same shit I was at the time.<br />
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Salem's Lot, the Dead Zone, The Shining, The Stand, Firestarter, and Christine is a pretty serious body of work and is every bit as valid as Shakespeare or Dickens, or any other "popular" writer of their day.<br />
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      <![CDATA[The Stand is a shaggy dog story with a sloppy deus ex machina ending.  <br />
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There is no need to go around <i>saying</i> authors like King are any good.  No need.  He sells tons of books already, and just saying you think he's good isn't going to get him any real respect.  But I understand how hard it is to give supporting reasons why he's good.  There aren't any.
        
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      <![CDATA[Stephen King is taking plot direction from THE SIMPSONS MOVIE? Oy Vey!
        
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      <![CDATA[King's only good stuff was his short fiction, which was mostly "homages" to Bradbury & EC Comics. It's amazing that DePalma, Kubrick and a few others were able to reimagine his awful novels into a few actually decent movies.<br />
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Years ago, as a teen, I slogged (heh) through It and The Stand (great set up, shitty shitty novel) and swore I'd never read his novels again, though I do wonder sometimes if at least the short stories hold up.<br />
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Crichton's stuff used to be reliably good airplane or beach reads, until his formula wore thin sometime around "Congo".
        
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      <![CDATA[Isn't that the plot of the Simpson's movie?
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:00:19 -0700</pubDate> 
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    <author><![CDATA[Julie in Eugene]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I read King exhaustively when I was in middle school...  I loved him then, but, I don't think my 13-year-old self was thinking too much about how good his use of language was, etc.  Especially considering that my other favorite author in middle school was VC Andrews.  Why my parents had no problem with me reading exclusively horror novels and lurid sex/incest stories, I'll never know.
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:54:10 -0700</pubDate> 
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      <![CDATA[The Stand is actually really good, if you have the revised edition.  The original had so much stuff cut out that it just doesn't make much sense.
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:49:07 -0700</pubDate> 
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