Wednesday, July 4, 2012
2012 More Americans Trust Barack Obama with Health Care
Posted by Paul Constant on Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:25 AM
This is bad news for Mitt Romney:
Just 30 percent in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll have a favorable opinion of Romney’s approach to health care, while 47 percent see it negatively, putting him underwater on the issue by a 17-point margin.
True, President Obama's numbers aren't great, with 45% of those polled viewing his handling of health care positively, and 48% negatively. But his positives are much higher than Romney's, and I think now that the Supreme Court has ruled on the issue, Americans are going to start coming around on health care. Since Romney is trying to run as a businessman with solutions for America's economic crisis, it's important that he gains America's trust on health care. If he can't do that, he's going to be weak on domestic issues, and domestic issues are all he's got to run on.
But it's not all bad news for Romney. At the moment, he's way ahead of Barack Obama among visitors to the George H.W. Bush Presidential Library. As of yesterday, Romney's up 62.41% to 30.54% among the crucial Bush-41-loving demographic.
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i'd love to see the 1st debate turned into a heated, sustained, informed forum on the ACA. willard cannot defend rmoneycare and oppose obamneycare simultaneously against a constitutional law professor who killed bin laden. he's not that good a lawyer.
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"Willard cannot defend Romneycare and oppose Obamacare simultaneously ... he's not that good a lawyer."
He's not a lawyer at all. Hell, he can barely speak in public without tying himself into knots and swallowing his foot up to the thigh. I can hardly wait for the debates. Obama is gonna wipe the floor with him.
He's not a lawyer at all. Hell, he can barely speak in public without tying himself into knots and swallowing his foot up to the thigh. I can hardly wait for the debates. Obama is gonna wipe the floor with him.
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But isn't Romney's trump card that he invented Obamacare?
And wasn't it the Bush appointed Roberts that validated it?
Seems like we Republicans could easily win this game of Go.
And wasn't it the Bush appointed Roberts that validated it?
Seems like we Republicans could easily win this game of Go.
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the most prominent right mentioned in the declaration of independence is the right of representation to have your own legislature to make laws for benefit of society.
the roberts court ruling setting a made-up limit on the commerce clause....that someone must be "active" to be regulated....deprives us of our right to representation.
it is admitted that big insurers can be regulated... that the economics of insurance means we have lots of free riders and higher costs due to uninsured....that eventually 99% of the uninsured will in fact become "active" when they go to the ER for care. Surprisingly, not ONE right winger who opposes gummint actually decides to turn down care because he or she can't pay for it, causing him or herself to die of their disease if, say, they hit the lifetime limit. the way commerce is regulated should be up to congress, not the unelected court acting as a legislature. we lost our indpendence and gained a bit of tyrany in that ACA ruling cutting back congress' power -- and ours.
the roberts court ruling setting a made-up limit on the commerce clause....that someone must be "active" to be regulated....deprives us of our right to representation.
it is admitted that big insurers can be regulated... that the economics of insurance means we have lots of free riders and higher costs due to uninsured....that eventually 99% of the uninsured will in fact become "active" when they go to the ER for care. Surprisingly, not ONE right winger who opposes gummint actually decides to turn down care because he or she can't pay for it, causing him or herself to die of their disease if, say, they hit the lifetime limit. the way commerce is regulated should be up to congress, not the unelected court acting as a legislature. we lost our indpendence and gained a bit of tyrany in that ACA ruling cutting back congress' power -- and ours.
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My sense is that people are sick and tired of hearing about this. (Aren't you?) If Mitt and the GOP want to keep punching this bag, they'll risk alienating a public that actually likes the benefits of the law and wants to move on to something else. Plus they'll help define themselves as corporate lackeys who'll fight anything that benefits the poor and the middle class. This is a winning issue for Obama.
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Wow, Bailo. Do you just randomly make whatever free-association you can grasp just to have something to post (and in almost every goddamn thread, too).
You clearly don't know what a trump card is, and you don't grasp that Mittens's base detests the Affordable Care Act.
Neither Mittens having invented "Romneycare" nor a conservative justice having upheld the mandate do not make for a trump card that will hand the election to Mittens. Do you somehow think that either of those two things will somehow make republicans magically do a one-eighty on their opposition to the ACA? In the next three months? And with every republican news outlet, pundit, and talking head having loudly denounced ACA as an evil death-panel-filled monster?
You truly are stupid, Bailo. Entertainingly stupid, but stupid.
You clearly don't know what a trump card is, and you don't grasp that Mittens's base detests the Affordable Care Act.
Neither Mittens having invented "Romneycare" nor a conservative justice having upheld the mandate do not make for a trump card that will hand the election to Mittens. Do you somehow think that either of those two things will somehow make republicans magically do a one-eighty on their opposition to the ACA? In the next three months? And with every republican news outlet, pundit, and talking head having loudly denounced ACA as an evil death-panel-filled monster?
You truly are stupid, Bailo. Entertainingly stupid, but stupid.
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The concept of a Free Rider is not fully explored.
For example, the principle cause of death and harm is not nature...but society itself (car crashes, HFCS foods).
So if I am born into a society that has already made choices which create an artificial world, one of machines and unnatural food, then I am essentially forced to utilize its "health care" to glue many hand back on when a driver rips it off, or to scrape the cancer cells from diesel fumes from my lungs.
The concept of a Free Rider is not fully explored.
For example, the principle cause of death and harm is not nature...but society itself (car crashes, HFCS foods).
So if I am born into a society that has already made choices which create an artificial world, one of machines and unnatural food, then I am essentially forced to utilize its "health care" to glue many hand back on when a driver rips it off, or to scrape the cancer cells from diesel fumes from my lungs.
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Imagine a televised debate.
Romney turns to Obama and says, Mr. President, isn't your healthcare plan based almost entirely on mine?
Imagine a televised debate.
Romney turns to Obama and says, Mr. President, isn't your healthcare plan based almost entirely on mine?
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@9: "... ,which i now oppose on the narrow grounds of federalism?"
"why yes, willard, it is. what would you suggest specifically to replace it, and why didn't any of your fellow party members suggest that in the year it was negotiated?"
"umm... ahhh... heh heh heh...."
"why yes, willard, it is. what would you suggest specifically to replace it, and why didn't any of your fellow party members suggest that in the year it was negotiated?"
"umm... ahhh... heh heh heh...."
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Why should androids have to pay the tax/mandate/penalty, seems pretty stupid to me.
Days to election: 125
Days to election: 125
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If stupidity is painful, then one wonders: Does Bailo suffer near-constant throbbing pain, or does he suffer intermittent sharp, stabbing pains just when he posts on Slog?
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Polling consistently shows that Americans on the whole favor the various provisions of the ACA -- and this is why the repubs are in such a lather to get rid of it, before people get used to it. Once people get used to having something, it's a pisser to take it away -- look at the Tea Party boobs famously demanding that politicians keep their government hands off their Medicare.
The R's already know they're doomed, eventually, and they're fighting rear-guard actions.
The R's already know they're doomed, eventually, and they're fighting rear-guard actions.
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