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It's fairly simple - if you need money at Burning Man, you're doing it wrong.
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Grizzly Bears are already in Washington State, they are in the Pasayten Wilderness area. Putting them on Westside of the Cascade Crest is something new, if they haven't migrated there yet from the eastside or to westside of North Cascade National Park
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More grizzlies!
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man, I'm always in favor of conservatism and restoring endangered species, but.... brown bears are horrible killing machines.
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Free market zealots who prevented climate change mitigation because "it would be too expensive" can now see the result of their policies on California's agriculture. Short sighted cretins, all of them.
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@4 more scary bears, and more yahoos packing guns in the wilderness.
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Oh, I see, a black man can't fake carpool but whitey can get away with it all day long.

RACISM!1
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Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Missouri employee who allegedly killed Michael Brown, never filed an incident report: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael…
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A woman was shot during the Ferguson protests, police confiscated the bullet surgeons removed from her skull, and now the police say they know nothing about it: http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrf…
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Your link is all broke. Here is the correct one:

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/pot/2014/0…
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@1: Did you read the article? Burning man is a festival where rich people go to pretend they are poor hippies for a couple of days. And they feel okay with this because there are some subsidized tickets available.
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@11 unlike you, I've been there more than once.

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@12: What? How much did you spend to get there, return, and buy provisions? How much did you pay for your ticket, and was it subsidized? If you read the article, you would realize that it is only a pretend gift giving utopia. Market forces existed to create it and allow you to go there. You only pretend they don't exist while you are there. They gave a great example in the article: it is like a picnic. You share food at a picnic. But before you got to the picnic, you spent money to get the food and take the bus to the park and back. To travel and live out in the middle of the fucking desert requires a lot more money that a picnic, even if the tickets are subsidized.

But, whatever. You're a hippy. You're in touch with nature. The Man has no control over such free spirit like you.
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@6: since they're in the NP, it means more stress for campers, dayhikers, backpackers and climbers. i think a natural recovery might be my preferred solution. at least until i'm dead. then definitely fly them in from BC.
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Fuck bears.
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Fuck Sea World. The assholes are expanding overseas, but they're having a hard time here in the states. They recently said that they would be building bigger pools, as if that would make a difference. I hope the fuckers go bankrupt.
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@15: "You're not really here to hunt bears, are you?"
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@11 &13: Yes it is expensive to go to Burning Man. Or it can be. One is not required to live like a Roman emperor while on the Playa and if youā€™re already a person who camps out, chances are you have the camping equipment you would need to go. If you go with a group and you all pitch in for supplies, that can cut costs as well. If youā€™re going to do an art installation, yeah, thatā€™s going to cost you, but surely you arenā€™t suggesting that artists should spend money to create their work.
The ticket is certainly a significant outlay, but much like our taxes the money goes to support the infrastructure of Black Rock City. For one week it is the third largest city in Nevada. It has a fire department, four separate medical camps, a police force, and FAA approved airport, and porta pottie cleaning service trucks that operate 24 hours a day. That costs a lot, and letā€™s not forget that there is no corporate sponsorship of any kind. Thereā€™s no Hammock Camp brought to you by REI, no Opulent Temple (sound system by Bose) no Big Rig Jig brought to you by Kenworth. People spend their own money to make create these things. If you donā€™t like camping or art of this nature in this sort of setting, thatā€™s fine. Burning Man is not for every one and I absolutely agree that the ticket price can be prohibitive, but it is what is. A week long art festival/camp out in the desert with a gift economy in place for the duration, financially supported by the people who attend. So what? Why does that upset you so much? Does it pick your pocket or break your leg? No.
Iā€™ve been twice, and I have never had so much fun, or learned so much about what I could really do. I fought in Thunder Dome, and saw amazing things, and met amazing people from all over the world. I canā€™t really do the experiences I had justice in words. It changed my life.
Oh and Iā€™m not a hippie. :)
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SeaWorld is a horrible place. I would love to see all of them shut down for animal cruelty. Their business model is highly amoral and cruel.
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I've long advocated introducing the grizzly into National Parks. Starting with Washington, D.C.
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@20: Grizzly bears are okay, but you really need wolves with them to maximize their environmental benefit (these are symbiotic species). The grizzlies control the wolves and steal their food, while the wolves keep the elk and deer populations healthy and feed scavengers (like bald eagles).

So make sure you release wolves and deer (or buffalo) in Washington, D.C. as well.
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@13 - Ha Ha! Just go on with all your li'l assumptions about stuff and things, you cute indignant thing, you! You read an article! Neat!

In French there are two words for the English term "to know": Savoir, and ConnaƮtre. The first means essentially "book smart": you know because you read about it; the second means "you know because you lived it": visceral knowledge.

Until you connait Burning Man yourself, you can assume what you say about it is without substance.
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It's saber and conocer in Spanish. Writing in another language doesn't make you clever.

In any case, you apparently missed the point of my comments. How much did you spend going to Burning Man and buying provisions? Did you get a subsidized ticket? Was it a really fun picnic? Did you connait the picnic?
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@23: I got most of my supplies and costumes at Value Village. Cooking stuff, sheets, pillows etc. I borrowed a tent and air mattress, and got my assigned food stuff ( I went with a group ) from Costco. I did shell out for a nice sleeping bag, and I bought a bike ( the cheapest fixie I could find) but for my playa gifts I used beads and elastic from the close out bins at Jo Ann Fabrics.
I used all the supplies again the next time I went. You know, like you do when you have camping equipment.
I did not get a subsidized ticket since those are for people who really need them.
So, all in all I didn't go into debt or anything. And going with a group really cuts down on costs obviously.
Like I said. With the exception of the ticket, you don't have to spend any more money than you would for any other week long camping trip. You certainly can, but you don't have to, to have an amazing experience.
I still don't understand why this bothers you so much. Can you explain a little bit?
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@24: Ref post #1 that started this thread and my subsequent points about the article.
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@25: Jesus Christ d! That's WiS. Why on earth would you listen to anything he says? He is not noted for the quality of his discourse or perception! :)
Burning Man is what you make it. Are there rich assholes who go? Yes. Because right now it is a fad? Yes. Out of 70,000 people statistically there are going to be alot of people who go for shallow reasons and have a shallow experience and that is sad for them. But some of those people will be changed for life and that is a wonderful thing.
The assholes and people who just show up for the weekend to party do not define my experience, or Burning Man as it has existed at its core for the last 25 years. There are thousands and thousands of people who have gone. Each burn is unique for each of those thousands of people. That, in aggregate, is what it is about........blah blah blah. Yeah, there is no way to talk about it without sounding really really over earnest. :)
It isn't for everybody, and it isn't a Perfect Thing Without Flaw Amen.
But is amazing, and it is unique, and for me, and a lot of people........well, there is a blank that you'd have to fill in for yourself I guess?
I'll shut up now. :)
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And can I just apologize for over use of emoticons?
Thank you.
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@26: Thanks @Lissa. I don't really have any other response than what I've given. I understand that Burning Man is a really neat festival. I just don't buy that it is truly the open festival that people think it is. From my perspective it is simply a vacation for middle class or higher where they get to pretend that they aren't middle class or higher. And as such, the idea that there is a neat socialist gift economy is just that, an idea (which in reality is actually based on buying things with capitalist currency prior to the picnic). Maybe I'm totally wrong and I don't understand the concept of ConnaƮtre as another poster noted. In any case, it isn't a big deal. I don't really consider Burning Man to be of much importance.

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