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Modi will get them!
Regardless of the timeline, the protesters made their case and the System responded by putting the Highway Patrol in charge and focusing social media attention.
At this point, the looting and violence needs to subside.
Systemically I have to ask -- why does Ferguson have a property theft rate 3x the national average?
Why is a majority African-American community not served by local black politicians and civil servants? Why aren't the people electing more People?
Time to let logic prevail. Another day of looting just makes protesters appear like the Knights Who Say Nee...demanding yet another shrubbery.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/tips-fo…
http://www.theonion.com/articles/our-nat…
Michael Brown wasn't some innocent sweet boy. He was a 290-pound, aggressive, strong-armed robber just 7 minutes before his encounter with police. The pleading witness you've pictured, attesting to the wrongness of the police is the same thug caught on camera. Nobody disputes it is them stealing from the store.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=464_14081…
Are the Furguson police shitty? Maybe.
Are Trayvon and Michael Brown innocents, victims of the white system? Gimme a fucking break.
Sometimes Unfortunate Things Happen In T…
Tips For Being An Unarmed Black Teen
Not really relevant. It'd be like you defending yourself when you are identified as the racist piece of shit that you are by saying that you fed your dog today. Nice that your dog got something to eat, but that has nothing to do with you being the racist piece of shit that you are.
shitty things sometimes happen to shitty people. YO!
This cop will get off -- not because of a racist white jury -- but because our laws are established (harshly) in favor of ordinary citizens who don't have any time for thug bullshit. And the fact that you don't think this thug bullshit is all-so-bad is just because you're circling the drain with the rest of America's stupefied urban Left.
The same way Slog can't even bring itself to report the video, you can't come-up with anything more original than "you're a racist." Race has nothing to do with my opinion. If some dirtbag white kid trying to steal copper gets shot by a business owner, I don't really get terribly weepy. Lesson: Stop acting like fucking fools and you'll get through life pretty easily.
Missouri Statute related to use of force.
3. A law enforcement officer in effecting an arrest or in preventing an escape from custody is justified in using deadly force only
(1) When such is authorized under other sections of this chapter; or
(2) When he reasonably believes that such use of deadly force is immediately necessary to effect the arrest and also reasonably believes that the person to be arrested
(a) Has committed or attempted to commit a felony; or
(b) Is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon; or
(c) May otherwise endanger life or inflict serious physical injury unless arrested without delay.
4. The defendant shall have the burden of injecting the issue of justification under this section.
Gimme a fucking break you apologistic turd.
He stole two cartons of cigars, in an I don't give a shit manner, then grabbed, shoved and charged the owner. So no, I don't think he deserved to get shot for that.
But immediately following that, he was seen walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic.
So based on that --
Stealing copiously in broad daylight
Without hiding his identity
In a store everyone knows is video monitored
The bullying and physically assaulting the owner
And then walking bad ass in the middle of the road....
Don't you think it's quite possible that by the time he was questioned my the police it's more likely that he was:
A) My sweet boy that was heading to college and never caused problems. (The media portrayal)
B) A self-entitled shit head who didn't think the law applied to him, inclined to challenge others physically.
And, since all the evidence now points to B -- don't you think there's a little something more to the lefty story that white cops are driving around otherwise randomly shooting black kids in the back?
It's an unfortunate set of circumstances, but it would appear Michael Brown had much to contribute
Such is the "progressive" mind that considers anything that challenges the convenience of Party Thinking to be unacceptable.
For the record. I'm pro gay marriage. Pro pot legalization. Think we should liberalize our border with Mexico.,I think we should demilitarize our police. I think we should end mandatory minimum sentencing and eliminate the death penalty. Etc. etc.
So, no. If you don't like my opinion, look elsewhere for your civic fairy tales . Keep seeking the comfort of people who agree with you on everything. That the breeding ground for Totalitarians and Simpletons.
That an 18 year old is walking around not giving a shit isn't surprising at all given that circumstance. The problems facing black youth in St. Louis is much much deeper than simply being a law abiding citizen. Hand waving it won't fix it. Being upset over one dude's death won't fix it. It's going to take a lot of soul searching, hard work and sacrifice from both the poor and the rich to help fix that area so its kids can grow up with a sense of hope.
I really wish more Americans went out and see these neglected decaying cities and towns.
Correction: He did not stop Brown because he was a robbery suspect. He was dispatched to look for a suspect and found Brown walking in the street. We don't know whether He realized Brown was in fact the suspect in the course of their interaction. Because the report of the shooting hasn't been released yet.
Again -- let's not get ahead of ourselves. Just yesterday morning Brown was answer innocent kid.
Yes it's fucking awful. And as long as people keep voting for their enslavment party, it's not going to get any better.
Hope and change.
Relax? I'm chill as chill. You're the one getting worked up trying to slam "racist" into an reasoned discussion.
I bet you got pretty frothy imagining the righteousness of Michael Brown. Did the store video sting a little bit kiddo? Pop the balloon of your societal narrative, did it?
Race has been the lens through which the White Left has interpreted everything for 30+'years. And all it has done is dragged urban Americans backwards. So keep shouting "racist" at everything, mindlessly.
It's reeeeeeeeeeeally helping.
@28
PRECISELY
You think government can and will do things for us. And there -- exactly -- is where things need to be reassessed.
Did he have it coming? Yes.
Race and poverty in this country is overwhelmingly complex. It's much easier to label things racists or defend the status quo, there's a third option which involves mindfulness and honest compassion.
It's totally possible. It just is very difficult and takes a lot of will power.
@ supreme: you are a racist piece of shit
@ barfshit: you are a racist piece of shit
A white teenager behaving as Michael Brown behaved would never get gunned down by the police. You guys can go fuck yourselves.
Who could have known that @Zok would get so upset when I suggested that his/her views better reflected white supremacists than average Americans?
Jesus you're an idiot. Nowhere did I say or imply anything racial as to how the African-American community votes.
Just to be quite clear, "Racist" means there is a biological component to somebody's intellectual capabilities and inclinations. I'm not saying that African-Americans vote for Democrats because they are in any way genetically/biologically predisposed. But what's pretty obvious is that a large share of urban America has been persuaded that the the Democrats can muster some great plan to elevate individuals out of social circumstance, and the collective is a necessary component of their individual success. (In the same way poor white rural rednecks think the Republican Party serves their interest, despite that party's fealty to corporate interests).
There isn't a racial component to that. It's just good old-fashioned salesmanship. The black community has been suckered not because it's black but because the con men are good, funded and organized.
The reason the liberal lie has been sustained in the urban community is that the culture has equated "anti-Democrat" with "anti-Black" -- And so preserves the power of career politicians (Obama) and church hucksters (Sharpton, Jackson) over the interests of Black individuals.
A successful black middle class wouldn't be a very potent political force, would it?
However, it is also true that Brown, disadvantaged though he was, clearly was a guy with issues. The way he shoved and used his size to intimidate that store clerk...that's just not acceptable behavior. Period. I don't care what kind of hard knocks you've been through. And it's hard to believe this was his first time pulling stunts like that...he's so nonchalant about it.
What bothers me is that the media and a number of Brown's defenders on the ground (and plenty of Slog commenters) seem determined to gloss over Brown's behavior. Everybody is so desperate to paint this incident with their own bias. It's sad how many people are unable to understand basic moral relativism; that even though Brown was apparently a jerk who was prone to violence (or at least a thief who likes using his size to intimidate and threaten people), what the cops did was still criminal and reprehensible. Both those things can be true.
(shittiness) + (racist comment) + (being an asshole) = (you are a racist piece of shit)
ta da!
And I fully expect to be called a racist for even suggesting this. Oh well.
The charges of racism against you mean nothing. They are ad hominem attacks, nothing more. They're humiliated that their civil rights martyr turned out to be a thug/animal who was begging to be put down.
@ Emmaz I want proof you're even old enough to be on the internet.
Here's the deal, you cannot judge the cop's action with the information known after the fact. Only what is known at the moment of the shooting.
You're right, things were much nicer back before the 60's, back when black folks knew they had to bow and scrape to their betters.
Or else.
Raindrop - C'mon man, you're better than that. Is that the type of company you want to be keeping?
Might have also hurt Mr Brown's transition to college?
I think you can all agree with that observation? If not, why?
You've repeatedly shown a desire to be a good person and help this country, yet your reactions to complex events are often overly simplistic and carry water for the status quo. Do you find it weird that you are distrustful of government until it involves a young black man being shot by one of its agents?
Yet you could drop 100 penniless Korean immigrants in overnight and they'd build a life.
Is your regular, so-tired meme "you must be fun at parties" something you read on the wall at work, changing out urinal mints at the BK?
I'll tell you all who the racists are: The fools here that presume Michael Brown was disadvantaged and poor -- because he's black. Michael Brown grew up in a two-parent middle-class household and was headed to college. That doesn't mean you can't be a thug.
Also, I didn't actually call anyone a racist. I called them a racist pieces of shit. Because any person on the internet arguing that Michael Brown was "asking for it" or that he was an "animal/thug" has gone far beyond unconscious bias and other forms of everyday racism. They are virulently spreading racist shit and they need to stop.
what a waste of time responding to Pridge Wessea. The kid never says anything of substance. he's good at not liking Sloggers, and that's about it. When I'm the target of his insults, it feels like I'm back in the fourth grade.
Please don't bash the south. There are fine people there with wonderful shops, great restaurants, not to mention the natural beauty from the Ozarks through the deep forests of Mississippi to the great rock formations in Georgia.
a) you are a racist
b) you are a piece of shit
c) you are a racist piece of shit
Oops, I did it again didn't I
Also, I am a special snowflake, but you are too. While it's obvious we don't always agree (most of the time? sometimes? almost never?) but it would be a loss to Slog if you weren't here (unlike Zok, Seattleblues, etc). It was cute watching you and Zok (and dnt trust me!) come together for a common cause though. Does that count as humor? If so, you're two for two.
"I feel like I need to say something though because they are holding it up as a bade of pride..."
I think your statements have been very interesting to read and so needed, thanks. But we're on The Stranger blog, emmaz and Slog staff will never acknowledge you, no matter how right you are. Slog was more Hegelian, back and forth to create a new paradigm, but that was years ago. Now it's one side against the other, never going anywhere.
Although I gotta say that Delirian's outburst was an interesting bonus of sorts.
Looks like someone got at least a B- at Seattle Central Community College.
now I'm a racist?
Yeah, emma, you may have gotten an overall B- at communtiy college, but that's because you got an A in Fiction, and a D in Logic.
- voting to authorize Iraq invasion - well a lot of politicians made that mistake. Not just Hillary. Many dems. Many liberals. Hindsight is always 20/20.
- The surge was successful. That's a fact.
- Hard on Iran? No, being prudent.
- Obama's foreign policy. What? Is the King above reproach?
- Putin - Since when is it wise to trust him?
- ISIS and other Jihadists - be afraid, be very afraid
- Israel defending itself. Nice to know that Hillary is not anti-Semitic like Obama and America's left.
- Arming Syrian rebels? A terrific idea.
Sometimes you have to be a Hawk. Like Bill Clinton against the Serbs, Truman and FDR in WWII.
Isolationism + Pacifism = genocide.
If you are defending him and think those kind of comments are necessary, then yes, you are a racist too.
For a good time, click on GermanSausage's ID and see past comments. Pretty much everything is due to "racists"
Long lines at Disneyland? Racists.
Not enough lettuce on your burger? Racists.
Can't get ESPN3 on satellite? Racists.
Ice machine won't switch from cube to crush? Racists.
Chop sticks not provided with spork? Racists.
Thank you muchly Hanoumatoi.
My expertise is in the arts anyway.
I'll let you guys be. Go save the world, warriors!
One keypad stroke at a time.
you wanna play tough-guy and act like a thug? Fine, then deal with the ramifications of acting like a piece of shit loser who tries to intimidate people.
so sick and tired of anybody that doesnt tow the progressive line being called a racist or a 'phobe.
Freaks and thugs and losers need to be called out for what they are, not catered to.