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Black cop. After a strong arm robbery. Well, that puts a little perspective on the whole mess.
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Has there been any word yet of possible consequences for the former police chief or other commanders? Do they just get a slap on the wrist?
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@ 1 How do you know its a black guy, was there a picture released?
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"a robbery at a convenience store" - I've heard this excuse before, is there proof?
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There are photos from the store that police say show it, I guess it up to people to look and see if they believe it.
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@1: It doesn't matter what race the individual cop is. The issue is and always has been institutional racism that leads to disproportionate response by police forces to black people. This can come from black cops or white cops. It's a much larger issue than any individual officer.
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@3

It's a fairly inconsequential detail, if it's true, but what does it say about the troll that so early in the morning--before 7 in the morning in Seattle--he or she is already all over Slog posting that claim?

Perhaps the troll is trying to confuse the cop who shot Brown with the State Patrol Captain who deescalated the situation?

Anyway, there's an article out from the Daily Beast detailing the corruption of the Ferguson PD prior to 2010, when the current chief, Thomas Jackson, took over. Jackson is supposedly a well-intentioned cop who got a messed up department. The Daily Beast reports that Wilson is white. Here are the final paragraphs:

Jackson has seemed less than progressive as he delayed identifying the officer involved in the shooting for fear it would place him and his family in danger. Jackson would only say the officer is white and has been on the job for six years. This means that for his first two and most formative years the officer might have been writing his own force reports and that none of them went into his file.

“It’s hard to get people to clean things up, especially if they’re used to doing things a certain way,” Schottel said.

On Friday, police finally identified the officer as Darren Wilson, who is said to have no disciplinary record, as such records are kept in Ferguson. We already know that he started out at a time when it was accepted for a Ferguson cop to charge somebody with property damage for bleeding on his uniform and later saying there was no blood on him at all.


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He looked a lot like a robber cause he was black, male, and had his hands up while not holding any weapon.

Sure sounds like jury poisoning by racist cops to me.
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@ 8 In the pictures he is seen as shoving someone not just because the guy was black. I am not sure the guy in the picture was him, and don't think that robbery suspects deserve to get shot, but it wasn't just a photo of a black man. He also could have tussled with the officers I don't know we need to wait for all the facts to come out. But yes it also could be all this stuff about the robbery is bogus. Let it play out.
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How about a moratorium on sticking your hand deep inside your baggie pants or jacket, pretending (or in fact doing so) to carry, whenever you pass someone on the sidewalk? Can we at least put a stop to that?
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@10 dude, I've done that myself when cornered by a group of feckless youth on a pedestrian overpass. It works, thats why people do it. BTW, as a parent of teenagers myself, I constantly profile bladheaded white men who walk into a public space like a movie theater or school, it's normal human behavior.
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@10
Excellent idea. Write to your Congressperson and Senators and let's get a bill for the President to sign before Labor Day.
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I want to see a photo of Wilson but can't find it. Who's got it?
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@13 There's a great photo of Brown robbing the store out there too.
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Funny how the article fails to mention the fact that Brown was the primary suspect in strong armed robbery that occurred moments before his confrontation with police. A robbery which was caught on camera, BTW.

This is the Stranger style of "reporting"; include only the details that support the one-sided, fucked up narrative that you want to promote, and leave out any facts that contradict that narrative. Yellow journalism at its finest.
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Without granting any veracity to the claims of unregistered trolls who have already been caught in one major lie on this thread, I will point out to them that shooting unarmed suspects is still tyranny (REAL tyranny, which you have not now nor ever will experience), Michael Brown is still a victim and martyr, and you are still what's wrong with humanity in general and America in particular.
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@15, you're right. It's okay to murder someone if they steal a cigar (if they're African-American).
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@17 not just "steal". Allegedly steal. After all that is the role of the police: to serve and protect and judge and execute.
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@7, I have no idea what you are trying to say. What is the 7 in the morning nonsense? The story wasn't posted until close to 8.

I was merely suggesting that perhaps maybe the police have been known to occasionally use the "we got a call about someone fitting your description" to stop people for no reason, and that if they are using it here they better actually have received a call.
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@16 Far to early to claim M. Brown "a victim and martyr". Being responsible for strong arm robbery kind of precludes both.... but let's wait and hear all the facts. And as far as what's "wrong with humanity"..... I'd say that title more appropriately belongs to those among us who rob and assault others for no other reason that they decide they want something that can't/won't pay for.

@17 Allow me to point out a few facts to you:
1) Far too early to determine that Mr. Brown was "murdered". Dispense with the inflammatory rhetoric, it just makes you look foolish.
2) He didn't steal "a" cigar. He stole a $50 box of cigars. Doesn't justify him losing his life, but let's get the facts straight here.
3) The cop confronted him in such a serious manner NOT because he swiped a box of cigars, but because he did so in a violent manner. Violence elevates the seriousness of a crime tremendously in the eyes of law enforcement, the courts, and just about anybody else who has a lick of common sense and intelligence.
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It's breathtaking to watch how fast Sloggers can transmute new countervailing facts into just more food for their ravenous hysteria. Slog motto: no time to wait, rush to emotion judgments now!
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@19

Are you the unregistered troll who posted the first comment on this thread? I just went back and checked: the first comment claiming Officer Wilson is black that I saw from the troll--you?--was on Kelly O's photo post of last night, and that comment was timestamped shortly after 7:00 AM.

If that's not you, then I don't know what you are talking about.
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Now, they're blaming the victim.
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" Michael Brown is still a victim and martyr, and you are still what's wrong with humanity in general and America in particular"

Unless in the commission of their crime and subsequent legal stop by police they did attack the police and attempt to get their guns. You know, the way criminals sometimes do.
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@22 oops, no, thought your first comment was in reply to me, but now I see I was @4, not @3... My mistake, sorry for the confusion!
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"Now, they're blaming the victim."

Who? The convenience store owner who was assaulted and robbed?
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@27
No problem. :). I guess it was really directed @1 via @3.
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@ 20, even fully assuming, for the sake of argument, that all the allegations are true, the facts are that Brown was unarmed and had his hands up. Many eyewitnesses report seeing that, and the police haven't denied it. As such, I stand by my description. To be a victim or martyr is not to say he was a straight arrow who had never done anything wrong.

And yes, people who refuse to stand for the rights of criminals are worse than the criminals themselves. The latter do not contribute to systematic inequalities or make it that certain people can be murdered with impunity.
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@30

Keep moving your goal posts pretzel boy.
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@30 Well said as none of us are perfect. Let he who hasn't assaulted a shopkeeper during a strong arm robbery cast the first stone. I think it's hilarious that your trumped up civil rights martyr was a real piece of shit. This all sounds so familiar though? Maybe we should build a sacred totem pole in his honor? Or maybe fuck Michael Brown. One less thug.
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@32 OK, help us out here. Who exactly do you believe should be subject to extrajudicial execution. We have "thugs" on your list. Who else? Homeless? Jaywalkers? Sidewalk spitters?
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@28: Apologies for the lack of clarity. I meant to refer to the homicide victim, Michael Brown.
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Circa reports that the cop who shot and killed Michael Brown did not know Brown to be a robbery suspect.
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@ 32, what's it like being lesser than a thug?
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@ 31, ROFL. Learn what your internet cliches mean first, or else risk making an even bigger ass of yourself as you do here.
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Seems like such a nice young man. Especially when he shoved and assaulted that little Asian immigrant shop keeper, a 1/3 his size. What college was he going to?
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"Circa reports that the cop who shot and killed Michael Brown did not know Brown to be a robbery"

Ah. He was just another upstanding citizen walking down the the middle of the street then.
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@39 - "Ah. He was just another upstanding citizen walking down the the middle of the street then. "

upstanding citizen or not - robbery suspect (which the officer did not know) or not - exactly, he was walking through a suburban street in the area he calls home. a police officer confronted him. then, things get confused until he was shot in the back with his hands in the air from 35 feet away.

comment? yeah, i thought not. . .
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@40 You missed out the bit about the assault on the police in the car and attempt to grab the cop's gun.

Sorry, your martyr's halo is getting a tad tarnished.
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If 38-41 are in any way directed at me, you oughtta know I've gone back to ignoring your unregistered (and checkmated) ass.
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So… A 6’4”, 292-pound thug commits felony strong-arm robbery, assaulting a shop worker, gets stopped walking down the middle of the road with the stolen merchandise, conflates himself in a struggle with a police officer over the officer’s gun and gets shot.

Sounds about right…
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Well, I just the article cited below:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/us/dar…

Sigh. Obviously, it gets more complicated. First of all, I want no more rioting. Ferguson, MO must move on, calmly. Second, the investigation must proceed to see if the shooting was warranted at all. From what little I know no, Mr. Brown did not deserve to be shot. On the other hand, it appears from the article/video he is no Emmet Till. Mr. Brown didn't need to rob the convenience store.

It is unbelievable that Chief Jackson waited to release the name of the officer AND released the video of the suspect in the convenience store robbery at the same time. Clearly now, there are overlapping narratives which will greatly distort true justice.

This is so bloody sad and surreal. Do prepare yourself. There will probably be no winners.
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@43 and yet thirty white dudes, who openly professed to want to overthrow the federal government by force, pointed high-powered semi-automatic assault rifles at law enforcement— in support of racist criminal deadbeat extremist — in Nevada just a few weeks ago. And they were hailed as your patriot heroes. And DON'T get shot.

Sounds about right...

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