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It's a helluva salacious story, custom tailored for the media.

FWIW, initial indications seem to point to some serious, systemic problems at KCS.

I just can't believe it took you two days to latch on to it.
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If the "no snitch" culture is to ever change the boys in blue need to be first in the "snitch" line. 9 1/2fucking tons of brass?!?! That is corrupt.
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Err. Wait. He picked up the expended brass off the ground and "stole" them? While I appreciate your hyperventilating picture of loaded ammunition on top of dollars, that is not what the guy was selling.

Since SLOG editors probably have no idea how firearms actually work, ammunition is made of a case, a bullet, gunpowder and a primer. When you shoot a firearm, the primer is ignited (not reusuable), the gunpowder is burned up (not reusable), the bullet travels down the barrel (may be melted down and recast, assuming it is a lead bullet) and the empty brass (or steel, or aluminum) case is left over. At many ranges the brass is just left around until someone comes along and cleans them up. Expended brass can be reloaded or melted down for the value of brass.

Does the range have a policy on spent brass? Is it actually against range policy for users to pick up and retain brass? Unless there is an established protocol, it is kinda like saying that the homeless guy picking up cans left in the street is "stealing" them.
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@3 Hey dipshit, I know the difference between a case and a bullet. Did you read the fucking article? It wasn't just the few you see at the gun range, it was 19,000 fucking pounds of brass.

The scrap prices I can vary from a $1 to $2 per pound, so if we cut to the middle that's nearly 30 grand in guns that have no records, no tracking and no accountability. You'd have to be a fucking idiot to think that it's "no big deal" for the police to have an untraceable supply of weapons like that.
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@3- Taxpayers bought the rounds, the brass belongs to the taxpayers. The money made off the brass should have been part of the regular budget, not one man's private fund for whatever he wanted.
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@4

you are fucking idiot.

clueless would be a compliment.
7
Just another responsible gun owner.
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@7

Really? Go fuck yourself and come back with something worthwhile.
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I have no issues with guns or misfound fears about spent brass. All governmental agencies have policies on how surplus property is to be disposed of, Holiwell was in the position of seeing that the brass was dealt with appropriately and failed to do so. Furthermore beyond a general ethics there are many laws and regulations that prohibit using one's governmental employment for personal gain. Add in the drug dealing and using his police powers to pimp out his wife. This guy was bad news all around, hopefully his soon to be ex-wife will be able to take care of the kids because he should be going away to prison for a good long time were he'll be in solitary for his own protection.
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It wasn't just the brass. Read the charging documents. He sold off 67 cases of live ammunition that he diverted, 15 grand worth. On top of the nearly 25 grand he got from the brass.

Oh yeah, and all the other charges too, the drug selling, the pimping, etc. Way across the line.
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@7

But I thought you believed that ONLY the police and military should have access to firearms.
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@10, That is quite a bit different than what was reported in the article.

@7 "30 grand in guns that have no records, no tracking and no accountability." Uhh. You say that you know the difference [between brass cases and ammunition], then you talk about scrap price of brass, which suddenly becomes guns that have no records?? Clearly there are records otherwise we wouldn't know all the details!

Nowhere in the article does it talk about live ammunition for weapons. If the reporter had done their work properly and actually read the entire charging document, the $15k in LIVE ammunition is a much more serious problem. At least in my mind.

Ansel apparently didn't read the charging document either.
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I wonder if this bad lieutenant ever pulled over a car full of drunk prom queens and asked them if they'd ever sucked cock.
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Over the course of seven years the deputy exchanged spent casings and live ammo for equipment for use by his department. The charging documents indicate this was Policy in the past. Where is his personal gain? He received no "cash" as the article states but the department received equipment. The other charges are weak as well. He is charged with Promoting Prostitution but the charging papers fail to mention even one actual act of prostitution that occurred. You need prostitution before it can be "promoted". Read the Certification for Determination of Probable Cause.

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