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Google is hiring at a rate greater than or equal to the rate at which minorities and women are graduating with degrees in CS. When you factor in that Google is hiring a lot of people with advanced degrees and/or experience it's even harder.

To fix the problem, you need more minority and women CS students. I graduated with a degree in Computer Engineering 14 years ago from a major university. I don't recall a single woman, black, or hispanic student in my class.

To fix the problem of no CS graduates, you need to get those students interested in math and science early. But people have been saying that since I was in elementary school. I don't know how you do that.
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Go further up the chain. Look at the colleges Google is hiring from and you'll find their computer science classes are filled with primarily white male students and a few white female students with a minority here and there. Their statistics seem to accurately point to exactly what the hiring pool looks like.

So it's not surprising, nor is it Google's problem in my opinion. It's a societal issue. How do we motivate more woman and minorities to pursue careers in computer science?
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Wow, 30% women sounds like progress to me; in my engineering classes there were usually only a handful of women, less than 10% I would say. The few I met were assertive and sharp as a tack though; I wouldn't be surprised if they get hired at a higher rate than men at a place like google on merit alone.
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The proportion of men to women is surreal, but I think the real story in terms of race is how large the Asian cohort is.
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This comes as no shock to anybody who works in tech. If Google (or any of the big tech companies) could take simple steps to fix it, they would. Unfortunately, the lack of women and non-Asian minorities arises from a combination of a culture that can be hostile or unwelcoming and decreasing enrollment in the necessary educational steps going back into the early school years (math in school, Computer Science in college). It's a complex systematic problem, not the result of a single company's policies.
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I don't know if they still do this, but when hiring Google was one of the few companies that wanted to know what your GPA was and not just which school you graduated from. This is a good indicator of our inequalities in education.
I'm not sure that Google has "some sort of clear plan to fix this problem" as it's not necessarily a problem of their own creation. If this was a company with less specific skilled labor needs and the workforce wasn't a decent representation of the population then we should be appalled. But this is unfortunately a reflection of the top grads in the tech areas. Anecdotally from my own experience two of the three execs I worked with on a project were women, but that was marketing and not tech. The tech side looked like a typical engineering class…mostly guys.
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@fletch3her

My graduating class was almost half Asian/Indian.
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(disclaimer/disclosure: used to work there)

The scary thing is that Google is much better compared to similar-scale companies in Silicon Valley (I would eat my hat if Oracle or Apple were even close to 17% female on the engineering side), and better still compared to the average valley/SF startup, which is pretty much exactly the white/asian sausage fest their rep suggests.

Google in particular is handicapped by the cultural biases of its recruiting arm, which prizes top-ten engineering school graduates over all else: it's not that they don't hire anybody without a Stanford or MIT degree (and they occasionally even hire weird autodidact liberal arts dropouts like me), but the scales are tilted strongly in that direction, which means that they're standing at the end of a pipeline that has already spent 20 years filtering out women and non-asian minorities. If they want to truly fight the good fight, it's going to require some serious effort at the primary school level, with no prospect of an immediate payoff.

A hundred years from now, "women can't be engineers" is going to look as quaintly stupid as "women can't be lawyers," but it's going to require a similar level of effort to fix it.
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I'm pretty sure that the Seattle office has far fewer than 17% women engineers. It's not broken out by office in the data, but just looking around the workplace it is pretty clear.

There are, however, several trans* women, enough that they likely contribute significantly to the statistics. This might be part of Google's plan to address the problem.
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Lighten up a little Paul. All the white men of Google went to their local morgue and picked out a dead baby. After they got little t-shirts made for the infants saying Goldie "Soylent Green" Goldstein, the dead babies now sit on each of their cubicles. The white men understand the diversity situation, but they also know that humor in the workplace is a welcome necessity.
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Heh...I work in a Computer Science Dept. at a University, and @1&@2 have it exactly right. Google's numbers, rather than reflecting poorly on Google, actually demonstrate they're doing waay better than average.

And we are close to abducting people off the street to improve our numbers.
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The demographics of the employee population, combined with the environment in which the main Google campus is located (Mountain View, which is mainly a bland, super-expensive suburb/office park), means that our "digital culture" is being created by clusters of white male elites who drive in mind-numbing traffic from over-priced housing to bland work locations (all the free food, slides and colorful paint on the walls doesn't make it much better). There is a veneer of creativity that comes out in the products that get created, but it's a thin one. It's like a simulated reality, and this is the reality that is driving huge changes in our culture. Is it what we want?
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This isn't an either-or. SparkFun put up a great post recently on some things companies can do to attract and retain more women and minorities: https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1470. It is a self-reinforcing cycle, and major corporations are a big part of the cycle.

Google may be better than many, but, given their power in the marketplace, they also get a larger share of the responsibility
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As @9 pointed out, these stats are value less without comparison. The sad fact may be that Google is leading in diversity.
I realize blog posts arent' supposed to be articles, but still some kind of information about hiring rates in the tech industry in general would be useful.

I know that in the film and television production world diversity figures like that would be a HUGE improvement.
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So what you're saying is that Google employees vote GOP?
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I sorta wanted to be a CS major but as a scared, underprepared first year, the traditional weed out classes basically scared me out of it. Of course as a 1st generation college student I hardly knew they were designed to do that, or how to build a study group when most kids didn't want to associate with me. It was isolating and miserable (so I got a physics degree instead). Maybe undergrad advisors and CS 100 profs could help.
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Why does diversity matter over all else? 100% of the current presidents of the united states are black.
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In google's defense, even if they were doing everything they could there is only so much that could be accomplished when there is a society that devalues and blocks women and minorities from acquiring the skills that working at Google would require.
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It has nothing to do with women not being interested in science or math. The majority of science and math majors are now women -- if anything, men are the ones not interested in science and math. Only in engineering and related fields (physics) do women make a tiny percentage. The reason is that the culture in those fields is completely hostile to women. I can take a lot of abuse (as evidenced by my continuing slog comments) but I couldn't take it anymore after my first two comp sci classes. I got 4.0's in both but never took engineering classes again. Classmates were bad, but even the professor made boob jokes and advice about "how to get women". The women I've seen continue in engineering are extremely tough or drop out of the culture altogether, just not talking to other people in their field. I've seen libertarian women who turn into pretty strong feminists after a couple of years in the tech industry.

Portland has a new feminist hacker space (Flux) in the Pearl District. It would be nice to see one organized here. If Google or Amazon or Microsoft or UW or start ups were serious about this cultural disaster they'd create or support feminist spaces for women in tech where women can work without personal or cultural aggressions -- they already support mostly misogynist spaces.
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It's interesting to see first-hand the process of a group of minorities becoming "white".
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Notice how paul constant conveniently omits the percentage of adian employees....cuz that would spoil his whole meme...
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Agreed that Google's demographics breakdown is not that great but um...what about the Stranger? Y'all seem like a bunch of white dudes too.
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@24 Yeah, but they're GAY white dudes...
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@22 - snork!
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@23 - You nailed it right on the head. How did Paul Constant manage to "forget" the number of East Indian employees? Because he has a point to make, and we all know that reading The Stranger is like reading FOX "News" - they take the facts they want and discard the rest. Including the number of Indian employees would have ruined his story.

I used to enjoy reading this rag, but now it's just frustrating to see such childish, biased, bad writing. I don't expect this to be Mother Jones, but come on...how about a little journalistic balance?
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Google would love to hire minorities. They could even be less qualified. They can't find them. That's not Google's fault.
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Paul, I'm slightly interested to know how attractive 30% of these women are based on a shallow scale of attractiveness? I'm sure every women there is qualified, but we all know corporations are prone to hire attractive people to put in certain departments, for the sole purpose of being a business tactic. Starbucks Corporation has a noticeable amount of attractive ladies in some of their departments (Yeah, I'm jealous) I'm not talking about, sexy supermodels, just smart qualified ladies with pretty a smile that will make you feel positive energy/vibes right before your wealthy white client sits down to discuss business. Google might be holding out for some female hotties to get their degrees? However, I think the high percentage of white people says more about Google being "paranoid" in this day and age with technology wars happening in other countries. Somebody out there perhaps encourages them keep their diversity on the low side. Google at heart, probably doesn't feel that way, but it's happening. If Google has the ability to creep me out, just by using Google sometimes, there must be something Google is scared of?

But dammit! I would love to work for Google, its a laid back environment, which is how every place should be, and you can bring your dog to work, I believe. That sounds like a dream! If only I WASN'T using Google the night I was searching for exciting career paths to find for myself..because the answer was staring at me the entire time. GOOGLE! And I missed it.

~Zach Galifinakis: Sometimes when I'm bored, I just like to look up things online and see if there's something I can't find out. I like to stump Google. The other day, I Googled: "How many Mexicans live in North Korea?" Google didn't know! I also Googled: "How many candles does Dave Navarro own?" 14,000.~

Oh: So if it's ILLEGAL for companies to discriminate against you based on gender or age. Why haven't I SEEN a male clerk working inside a Victoria's Secrets store to ring up bras? Men do makeup around the corner at MAC, men ring bras up and sell you shoes at Nordstroms? So certainly men are capable of working retail at VS. Has no male resume ever been good enough? Or does VS secretly not trust men working in their stores? Or they know it could potentially creep the women right out of the store? Either way they are obviously discriminating.
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Was the guy that could never get hired at Victoria's Secret for 'not having enough retail experience' (being a man), the same guy who invented Google Glass?? I heard a rumor.
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"Only 2% of the company’s total US workforce is black, and 3% is Hispanic. Asians are comparatively overrepresented given their share of the US population, making up 30% of the company’s American employees."

So Google doesn't have a diversity problem, it's just that Constant and his fellow Bolshies have a problem with their designated Mascot demographic not being represented to their liking


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