Comments

1
What does the spokesperson for AAMCO say?
2
we need a trigger warning on this for people that are triggered by annoying internet debates.
3
It seems that this going to continue to be a point of contention between the drag and trans communities. And Ru is not wrong about people needing different labels at different points in their development (something that is discussed at length in the Marin interview)... But the development of a drag performer is not the same as the development of a trans person. I hope there can be room for both and all the words that attend those differences.
4
Brilliant interview.
5
I think maybe we should focus on railing on the non-advocates before we go after those who are the strongest advocates. Why don't we go after George Takai for using the word queer now, that's totally not pointless, right?
6
Opinion!
7
She also loves the blackface stylings of Shirley Q Liquor, so I don't think her taste is always batting 1000.
8
RuPaul is a transphobic asshole. People need to acknowledge this.
10
@9: Good catch.
11
@9: That only makes her hypocritical if she thinks tranny is a derogatory slur, which she obviously doesn't.
12
@11, Actually a more apt comparison is to consider whether Amanda Byrnes considered it a slur, not RuPaul. By RuPaul's own logic, if Amanda didn't consider it to be a derogatory slur towards gay men, then it's totally fine to use.
13
@8, 9, 10

Ain't no hypocrisy from Ms. Ru...that's just your agenda showing.

...keep reading, sweeties. Don't act like some backwater evangelist, picking and choosing the verses that fit your ego-driven perspective.

...and we quote from the article you linked to on HuffPo:

"[I]n the ACT UP age we called ourselves queers because we earned the right, we took the word back," he explained. "But in reality, once you go even deeper, you know, you have to come from intent. And black folks call themselves the n-word all the time. It's because the intent is coming from a place of love. If the intent is coming from a place of hatred, that's different."
14
Bitches goin'a bitch.
15
@11 Rupaul from today's interview:

I believe that everybody, you can be whatever the hell you wanna be. I ain’t stopping you. But don’t you dare tell me what I can do or say. It’s just words. Yeah, words do hurt… You know what? … You need to get stronger. You really do, because you know what, if you think, if you’re upset by something I said, you have bigger problems than you think.


RuPaul in 2012 on the word "Tranny":
It's ridiculous! It's ridiculous!... I love the word "tranny"...And I hate the fact that he's apologized. I wish he would have said, 'F-you, you tranny jerk!'


Rupaul on Amanda Bynes using the word "faggots":
Derogatory slurs are ALWAYS an outward projection of a person's own poisonous self-loathing @AmandaBynes


You be the judge...
16
@15

...thanks, for the invitation to judge.

You chose a perspective then proceeded to take excerpts from select references and forced them to fit your agenda.

You don't know Ru...that much is obvious.

You speak from ignorance, not having walked even a step in Ru's shoes...not that you ever could.

You never bothered to read the WHOLE article to see that it not only challenges your point of view, it refutes it by revealing it.

Some white boys just cannot handle a strong, black woman.
17
Can't wait until the trans community considers the existence of drag queens "transphobic".
18
I listen to lots of WTF podcasts and was a little disappointed with with one. RuPaul obviously is a deft interviewee and can easily deflect questions about sex/sexuality/etc. And I kept hoping Marc would ask about the astrology mentions RuPaul kept sprinkling into the conversation.
19
@16 Lawdy. Throwing shade isn't actually an argument.

I didn't even make an argument. I just provided evidence that might complicate simple exoneration.
20
@17

Some, thankfully few, already do in much the same way as some feminists oppose drag.

It's always confusing and disappointing when those who have suffered so much at the hands of a majority that demands they conform to some mainstream ideal of normalcy would add to the pain in the world by coercing another minority group to conform to their demands.

Those who have not discovered their own strength and power are forever trying to steal some from another.

The weak remain so because they are constantly destroying themselves in the world around them.

Hate consumes us.

An you harm none, do as you will.
21
@19

You took statements out of context, put them in an order to make your point and directed people to judge RuPaul based on your chosen presentation.

...that's an argument, sweetie.

That you don't understand what you've done (or are simply claiming ignorance) is reflective of either the clueless nature of the worst of Seattleites passive aggressive nature or the obvious need for remedial education.

The rhythm of the dance floor is calling me back, baby. I gotta go.
22
@19

You asked for judgement, not an argument, and you got what you asked for.

Deal.
23
@21 AND 22 LAWDY, I struck a nerve. Mama Ru don't need no help from your blessed heart. If you'd like to put the evidence I presented in a context that reveals a different meaning than what I gave them, please do. I am longing for the day that you can make an argument that isn't personal attack and unsubstantial retort. You come from the Dominic Holden school of arguing.
24
Identity politics. The whole argument makes me sigh and Ru Paul highlights the absurd about being an absolutist on such matters. I don't think she is a very good interviewee but I can appreciate the philosophy that some of us continue to seek liberation which means getting rid of the fucking rules while others of us are struggling to make more rules in the form of rights and legal protections.

While i sympathize with hunger of those that seek marriage and protect themselves from intrenched hate as expressed in speech, words and legislation barring me from entry hurt me too, I'm a part of the latter camp.

Get rid of the game. I want as little in common with those that oppress as I can have.
25
In the 20th century the mainstream homophobes told gay people to shut up, be ashamed and hide who they were from public view.

In the 21st century the mainstream "liberals" are telling gay people who refuse to conform to the new norm to be silent, to be ashamed for their controversial views, and to hide who they are from public view.

As more members of the gay community assimilate into the mainstream expect more of this type of censorship.

Those who lead the revolution are condemned by the generation they freed.
26
I've got She-Male!!!
27
@25: Ah, Log Cabiners.
28
@25 Unfounded generalizations backed up by slippery slope fallacies. Try again, sweetie darling.
29
@28

Well, you are the resident expert in that field of expertise.

Even so, it would certainly be ironic to trust your judgment.
30
@29: You're a sad Republican stereotype. Yes, we hold gays, straights, cis and trans alike to not be douchenozzles. You can legally be an asshole but don't expect to be well-liked. I'm sure you're already not but still...

Please wait...

Comments are closed.

Commenting on this item is available only to members of the site. You can sign in here or create an account here.


Add a comment
Preview

By posting this comment, you are agreeing to our Terms of Use.