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Reactive

Not Proactive

Says it all
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Not that she will, but can O'Toole reinstate the disciplinary charges against certain officers that Bailey dismissed?
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"We are satisfied with the canvass, but fully accept that it's possible we may have missed something."

The most serious investigations you do, it's fucking possible you missed something and you're satisfied? Holy fucking shit the incompetence. It's your job to talk to people and you admit you failed to talk to people or at least "it's possible" which means hell fucking yes you missed something. Blue code in action. They're a police officer it's not possible for them to have done any wrong by dismissing an entire community, they just simply overlooked it like they always have in the past, what a fucking joke.
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Not hard to read between the lines of this SPD letter. It's a flat-out admission that verifies what Tonya Moseley wrote.

O'Toole can't get on duty fast enough.
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Thanks for publishing that number, SPD! I'm damn sure the people who committed and/or witnessed these crimes have been waiting with baited breath for your announcement of the phone number, being unaware of the digits 9-1-1.

Dipshits.
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Hard to be anonymous calling 911.
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@3, anything's possible; a little silly to rant when someone admits that.
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When they say "Responds to" they probably ment "got in touch with so she can tell us who to say we asked". The Seattle police department does not care about anyone until they get called out.
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That picture is fantastic for this post and her piece.
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@9
I sort of like the picture too, but it looks a little too brown to me. Maybe he was using a cheap camera,
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I looked at that photo and thought "Mudede is getting a little better".
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I guess it's not possible the same people could say one thing to the police, and another thing to a black woman reporter?!

That wouldn't enter anyone's mind.

The only thought is, of course, the police are lying.

There are either too many police in a black neighborhood oppressing the citizens, or there aren't enough police in a black neighborhood allowing crime to run rampant.

Some day, hopefully, we'll get it right.
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@3
"We are satisfied with the canvass, but fully accept that it's possible we may have missed something."

The most serious investigations you do, it's fucking possible you missed something and you're satisfied? Holy fucking shit the incompetence.


That is not incompetence, it is just an aknowledgment of reality. It is practically a truism. In any investigation there is always the possibility that you might miss something.

I am actually pleasently surprised by the response from SPD. They explicitly declined to debate or dismiss the statements in the article. The response makes me thinkthat the higher-ups are looking into this. No matter how seriously they were taking it, I'm not sure they could say much more than they already did without potentially jeapordizing the prosecution of the shooter when they (hopefully) figure out who that is. People will view that as a calculated and political reason not to publicly question the detectives investigating the case, but SPD owes it to victims to not poison future prosecutions.
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I am a black American, transplant from Chicago where there is gang activity on a large scale and it appears to me that this could be more easily stemmed due to the small scale of Seattle. I live in the CD becuse it is not homogeneous and there are people from many cultures. I make a good salary and could live anywhere but I chose here. Please don't get distracted people and stay on point...which is call 911!!! Criminals are not honorable, they deserve no code. They are out for themselves and don't give a damn about you, your children, or how hard you work to make a better life for your family! I for one WILL NOT COVER OR PROTECT ANY OF THEM!!! You see someone in your neighborhood who doesn't belong, call 911. We know what drug dealing looks like...dial 911! Make the police presence so common that criminal activity has no choice but to move. This is our neighborhood also, we need to be the dominant gang, WCHO (Working Class Home Owners)! Call 911!!! And be warned...if I don't know you and you are in my neighborhood, if I think you are up to no good I'm calling 911 and I don't care what race you are!! THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD!!!
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@9
Photo credit is Malcolm Smith, not Charles Mudede.

@10 Cheap camera? No. Digital camera, and Photoshop, maybe.
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Correction: @ 11 & 10 respectively.
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@14:Sounds nice,but there are sooo many scores that haven't been settled between the pigs and the POCs ,Socialists , and the Lower Class in the land, that resorting to dialing that telephonic number simply isn't considered to be a viable option to the aforementioned historically oppressed American demographical groups. --- http://www.copwatch.org
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@14 Yes! I salute your words! There are people in the CD who care as much as you; I hope you are connecting with them.

OTOH - I wonder how many people in the CD look to the Stranger to report on their concerns. I actually find it difficult to understand all the furious comments here (re the original article). Do all CD people wait for a knock on their door to volunteer information to help with the police investigation? Did SPD turned their backs on people in the community? What are the conversations on the ground??

Somehow, I don't feel I will get these questions answered in the Stranger.
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@17-5th-columnist ... You are in the right place; stick to online rants. Your missionary zeal is not needed in the CD.
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@14 soooo let me understand this... you transplanted from Chicago, a city that has been economically dismantled by the impact of automation on its labor force, to live in the CD and claim it as YOUR neighborhood? You contribute to the generational displacement, de-homogenation and gentrification of the original residents of the District, many of which are the very people your stating are criminals and people who "don't belong" in your neighborhood. Lets talk about why people are criminal. The primary reasons people are criminal is profit & power, i.e. private property. Economic displacement forces human beings to do what is necessary to survive. As a part of the middle class you must know a little something about displacement, as your class has taken a major hit since the great recession, loosing homes, cars, healthcare, pensions, full-time employment and your jobs being aggressively replaced by automation and robotic technologies. what if when you moved to the CD someone would have said "they aren't from my neighborhood, call 911"? Because pushing people out of their homes, their neighborhoods, their cultural safe havens IS CRIMINAL! You may have heard of a similar story in your up bringing about a man named Christopher Columbus who did the same. If you could have lived anywhere why didn't you stay in Chi where it really was "your" neighborhood? Your class is rapidly understanding as I'm sure you will one day too, that there is no more middle class, there is only the Ruling Class, and the rest of us. And when you wake up, you will soon understand that the police and all other forms of militarization in this country are for the explicit purposes of protecting the ruling class and their private property. Im sad to know you are the new residence in MY NEIGHBORHOOD. Signed a woman from the Central District. here you can read about it ... neighbor: http://peoplestribune.org/pt-news/2014/0…
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Hahahahahaa, so all the closet racist, reactionary idiots in the previous thread were dead wrong, as usual. Not one, but two canvases did happen.

Hey closet racist, reactionary idiots - maybe next time you'll stop to wonder where exactly Tonya lives in relation to the crime scene, and if she might be using your idiot asses for political purposes.
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@20 "Chicago, a city that has been economically dismantled by the impact of automation on its labor force"

Get it right. Automation didn't kill the jobs.

Humans are still doing them in other countries, for less than $1 per hour. You just didn't have the money to join the new economy, where we don't work, we just invest in corporate globalism.

It's a good thing though, right? Free trade? Tear down those barriers! You know it's a good thing because both Republicans and Democrats told you so!
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@20 - My advice is to recite your post to as many of your new CD neighbors as possible. Then they'll all immediately try to move out of the neighborhood. Holy Christ.
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the plural of anecdote is not data... BUT now we have the facts to back it up... SPD keeps hearing these tales of officer shoulder shrugging from citizens and we see the statistics are bearing this out.

Hoping the new chief can help the healing between force & community AND light a fire under the force with support of strong leadership.
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it was a from a cell phone, and maybe you and team jackass should pay for it then or quit blending in images that aren't yours, were never published, were never even fucking printed for that matter and stored with password protection.

What's a good word to describe physically invading somebody personal, private, locked space despite their protests and against their will?

Not digital rape, but what's is called after if the have the gall to be a slogger about?

It's similar to full of shit hypocrite, two-faced, rapey but not sex crimed until they filmed sex acts and attempted to then ridicule them cause their hypocritical rapist nazi grammarians mother fucker

is there a name for that?

or should I just hyphen it to the joy experienced by an innocent party doing two -to-5 years at powder river because he was in the hyphenated fucker's collateral damage of talking within earshot when digital raping fuckwit was getting his surveillance on?
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@19/Dktr Sus: I reported to The Stranger as your reply to my comment does not contribute to the discussion of the article. You trolled, and I called you out for doing so.
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@26

Hey man, have you been checked for a stroke or aneurysm? You really might want to look into a neurological exam ASAP.
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Classic non-denial denial by Sgt. Whitcomb and SPD. They may have twice "canvassed," but they just didn't, you know, talk to any residents.
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Wait. How exactly does anyone get away with calling this a black neighborhood anymore? Demographics tell a different story. It's extremely diverse, but in 2014 it's at least as much a white neighborhood as black around here.
As we've seen, we're either horrible yuppie gentrifiers or dangerous thugs, depending on your purposes.
How Whitcomb can blame the no-snitch code here is beyond my understanding. My gentrifyin' neighbors call 911 at the drop of a hat.
But the perception: Geez, the fear and racism in this city whenever you get a reasonably diverse neighborhood... any actual black neighborhoods must be stereotyped into invisibility by white Seattle.
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@27 My bad for not making my point clear: The CD does not need nor want entitled "anarchists" moving in with their rhetoric and violent 'solutions'. Commenting here on this blog is harmless, as you will likely not be reaching an audience from the CD. This outlet is good for posturing people to rant and swagger, without distracting people who are struggling to find their own solutions.

BTW, I am pleased to know an anarchist who will "report" a wrongdoing ... like calling SP ... as a good citizen would.
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One point about this article is the police lied; they did not canvass the neighborhood as they claimed. Whether or not canvassing the neighborhood would be worthwhile is not as significant as lying about having done it. This is not a way to build public trust. If they feel canvassing the neighborhood is not an efficient use of their time be forthcoming about it. To those who believe Whitcomb's canvassing dance : did you know the word gullible is not in the dictionary . . . ?

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