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Well, after 9/11, bungling Afghanistan, fabricating a pretext to invade Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, and appointing Roberts and Alito to the supreme court, we learned there was a BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE.
So if the R's win in 2016 and control both the House and Senate, they will inflict immense damage on our nation the same way Bush did.
But yes, women (and men who believe it is long past time for a female president) will mobilize powerfully behind her campaign. And more power to 'em. The status quo at the top will stay the same in 2016 whether you vote third party or not. The societal impact - the impact on millions and millions of young women in this country - of seeing our first female Chief Executive, will be powerfully beneficial in its own way.
You raise the blade,
You make the change,
You re-arrange me till I'm sane.
America, it was a nice thought. Too bad things didn't work out.
Maybe global warming will create enough of a crisis so that somebody who isn't owned by Wall Street banks and/or other trans-national corporations can actually win the presidency and galvanize an economic and social revolution. Seems like a stretch though.
None of us is ENTITLED to have a presidential candidate we "like" or "agree with." It's up to us to make that happen. If we can't, well then, it sucks to be us, and we're stuck with what we perceive to be the lesser of two evils. If we don't get the lesser evil, we'll get the greater evil.
My choice is clear. I won't lift a finger for her, or (heaven forbid) give her one red cent, but I'll damn sure vote her to keep ANY fucking Republican from getting elected.
He's 72 years old now. If by some miracle he were elected, he'd be 75 before he even took office. And while I like him well enough, he has no hope whatsoever of winning a national election. None. He wouldn't break 5% of the vote on a good day. You are delusional if you think this is even a remote possibility.
On the other hand, Bill Clinton was the best Republican President ever. He signed NAFTA, repealed Glass Stegall, and destroyed welfare. It wouldn't shock me that Hilary has big money supporters.
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Howard Dean's son was a TFA (Teach for Awhile) alum, using kids as a stepping stone to now run his own charter school org.
Dems profiting off kids, privatizing public education, promoting charter schools that don't take all kids over public schools that do take all kids (even giving them MORE money when it's been shown that charter schools in 15 states have wasted over $136 million in taxpayer dollars on fraud, mismanagement, etc. - sorry, not my party anymore. Neolibs masquerading as Dems - that's what they are.
I'll vote Green.
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People who are called out for being racist are racist. Obama gets plenty of criticism from people who aren't racist as well.
Not Ansel. He's a one note writer.
Rubio '16!
If you really, really believe in democratic society, and you accept the reality that a lot of people in the world and in your own country lean to the political right, then you really, really need to accept the government you get after your elections.
Of course, the radical left does not believe in democracy at all; they believe in overthrowing right-leaning, fairly elected governments by force (in Turkey, where the anti-right overthrow failed, and in Egypt, where it succeeded: where are people better off today?) and maintaining force-installed left-leaning governments by whatever means necessary.
This is nothing new, of course. And the radical right absolutely has the same failing. But it's still despicable, to those of us who believe in democratic societies.
And it's a matched set: not only do you have no idea who you were talking to, you have no idea what you were talking about. Your notions about the political polarities and for that matter the course of events in Egypt and especially Turkey are beyond absurd. I have no idea whether the "radical left" you contemplate even has any meaningful existence.
I missed the part where the Egyptian government was fairly elected. Not that I think overthrowing a stable government is necessarily a good idea, especially in the absence of democratic ideals in a country, but that's why I also opposed the invasion of Iraq.
Because that's what he is.
God I hope I'm wrong and it won't come to that. Alas it will, and I will curl up into a ball and cry for my nation when it happens.
People who are offended because there aren't any perfect candidates and announce they are therefore going to vote for some third party candidate who has no chance whatsoever are just too naïve to be allowed to vote. Every single country in the world which allows its citizens to vote ends up with the "least worse" as leader. Grow up and realize that. Think about what Republicans stand for, and what Democrats stand for. That's the realistic choice you'll have.
The whole "she'll be better than any republican" line is weak, especially 2 fucking years before candidates are even nominated. We as a nation cannot afford more corporate whores making decisions, and that's all we've gotten in the highest levels of the government, corporate whores who continually fool enough of the population to drag us down.
Lets stop speculating about who's going to run for president in '16, lets focus on the mid terms comin up. And let's stop handing the presidency to someone based solely on name recognition and any superficial qualities we can pat ourselves on the back for. Lets try to get someone in who will actually work for us, the people, and not warmongering, environment polluting, and worker screwing corporations.
Fuck Hillary Clinton!
I don't mind reading Glenn Greenwald, but he should be taken with a huge grain of salt. He also has gotten some of his reporting really wrong, like the PRISM program. He is a pundit, not a journalist..
This is all to EMOPROGs, politics is about compromise, no matter how bitter and sell out-ish it can be at times. You get the best candidate to appeal to all factions, not your own.
I got into huge flame wars with EMOPROGs on AMERICABlog before the 2010 mid term elections, because they felt Obama was a sell out and a stooge to Corporate America, even though he came into office with some huge daunting problems facing the United States, including a major economic recession.
I would love to have Elizabeth Warren as President, but that isn't feasible, because she has to win the election first, and she has to appeal outside New England.
Read Glenn Greenwald, but as much as EMOPROGS love his anger toward the Status Quo, the guy is very very duplicitous. He is much closer to Rand Paul and Ron Paul, politically than to the progressive and liberal America. He proclaims that Progressives should support Gary Johnson for President, even though the guy's track record is as right wing as someone like Rick Santorum..
Don't think about Bush, think about Cheney, Rummy, Rice, Ashcroft, Rove, Scooter, Bolton, Feith .... that's how you end up with a pile of bodies and debt.
she is a AIPaC fucker
right saaraahh 7000 !!!!
Whatever the choice, these candidates will not change the status-quo and they will not be a threat to the monied interests who pull the strings behind the scenes.
So rather than follow observing how the money corrupts our system,. we will continue to be distracted by the dog and pony show of crazy shit Republicans say.
Vote for the Greens! Vote for Nader!! Stay pure in your ideology at all costs!
If there's one fucking lesson in the past 15 years it is that shit can get real bad in a real hurry. There indeed is such a thing as the lesser of two evils. W absolutely fucked us. Is/Was Gore a douchebag tool? Yes! Would he have been a better president than W? Not sure but my guess is that 9-11 would likely still have happened but that Iraq would not have been invaded and all the other aspects of the Bush years: torture, illegal spying, etc. may have still happened but without Dickbag Cheney, things would have been a lot less evil. Also we wouldn't have John Roberts or Samuel Alito on the SC fucking us over for the next 20 years.
For those of you who bash 3rd party voters, remember there's this thing called the electoral college, and Washington is safely a blue state, we can afford the luxury of a "wasted"vote here. The Dems will have to nominate someone better than Clinton for me to not do that next time around.
But damn those republicans are so much worse!
It's not a matter of compromise and least worst. It's a matter of communication with your friends neighbors, and communities to show them how we are being manipulated and lied to by a corporate media to manufacture consent for the expanded exploitation of humanity by a bunch of fucks. political labels of conservative or liberal are not innate aspects of our being, only indicators of what brand of the coolaide one has fallen for. Rather than compromise with zombies I emplore you to expend your creative and positive energies to help wake them from their spells... For the sake of humanity.
Don't like democratic politics? get involved in the democratic party and move the needle. the american system is built to boil down political differences to two competing factions. It's designed that way, on purpose. Opting out of one of those two factions because "ooh green party, fucking patchouli, i love me some hippy nonsense lets beat a drum and cross our fingers for world peace" is tantamount to supporting the other faction.
Which is to say, like it or not, this trash might as well be headlined "Rubio/Paul 2016"
It was designed to be party-less. The parties reshaped things to their own will. All those legislative rules that have to do with party affiliation? Not constitutional, just procedural. The two antagonistic party model isn't necessary. All we need is a third party to get 20 or 30 percent of the seats in the House and it'll implode.
If you missed the part where the Morsi government was fairly elected, after mass protests against the Mubarak regime, then you must be working very hard to miss some pretty significant pieces of the recent history of Egypt.
@21 You might be awfully surprised if you took a little time to look into the history of the relationship between the Left and the military in Turkey. And also into the election of Erdogan.
It's not surprising, I guess, that Lefists don't like to be reminded that using street protests to oust fairly and recently elected governments is antidemocratic. Or that majorities of the populations of Egypt and Turkey are centrist religious conservatives, and that those majorities can win and have won fair elections.
As for the rest of your blather, I'm pretty sure you're also clueless....
Ah, OK, so we're going to pretend the military coup of 2013 ousted the Mubarak government in 2013.
For those who are coming late to the history lesson:
There was a mass uprising in Egypt in 2011, after which the not-fairly-elected Mubarak regime was ousted, and a new government, headed by Morsi behind a conservative religious coalition, was installed by elections that all nonbiased international observers agree were fair.
And then there was another mass uprising in 2013, in which Leftist, anti-Morsi groups got the outster they sought, after thousands of Muslim activists were butchered in the streets by the anti-Muslim military. In the wake of this street-level conflict, a secular military autocracy was established by coup, and since then no elections any outside observer has called fair have been held.
@56 seems to have a painful cognitive inability to absorb the fact that the majority of the Egyptian body politic is both Muslim and conservative (and largely centrist, but who cares about that when you are an American Leftist and Foreign Muslims are scary).
You see, that's how it actually works, that simple. Nobody is going to make any bones about it, no matter how much the Dems whine about it and blame the voters. You put up a candidate voters won't pick, that's your fault.