News May 4, 2014 at 8:38 am

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I wish anarchists and teabaggers would move to Somalia and enjoy all the lack of government they can handle.
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What have the Romans ever done for us?!?
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"A core group of seven, which staff dubbed `The G-8'"
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To be fair, while I think the immigrant rights parade somehow seems more focused, I don't suspect that it accomplishes much, either. It certainly doesn't draw as much attention, since the news media deem it less newsworthy.

Would the anti-capitalists be more effective in their efforts if they planned and disclosed to city government their route ahead of time and added dancers in colorful ethnic costumes?
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Considering the Islamic fundamentalists running Egypt, your question about what the f**k happened seems naïve, Ansel.
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jeet cris, the obtuseness is overwhelming. Some write a book called "But What's the Message??? -- Hack Journalist's willful assault on Messages that Oppose Corporate America".

down with capitalism? Hmmm, but what's the message????
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I'm going to be a grammatical pissant and say that the first two clauses in the minimum wage blurb should have their commas replaced by semi-colons.
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$15? Try $26

California Congresswoman Wants A $26 Minimum Wage In Her State

California Democratic congresswoman Barbara Lee expressed support for a $26 minimum wage in her state — a move Republican congressman Andy Harris encouraged, assuming jobs would rapidly flee California to his state of Maryland.


http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/02/califo…

My thought? What we really need is a $7/hr wage...in Asia.

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#4

The way for immigrants to get rights is to self-deport and bring a spirit of Yankee Independence, learned in the US, back to their home countries. Instead of importing subservience (and votes) to Centralized State, they should return and assert their inalienable rights as free citizens of their respective countries.

The US then becomes a learning institution of revolutionary change exporting its graduates in the ways of the Constitutional Republic.

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@7: I didn't notice, but you're right. I love it when we're alerted to the rightful places of the underused semicolon.
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@ 6 - if it's that simple, the people being interviewed on camera could have said, "the message is that corporate America has captured the reins of government and government is not serving the interests of American citizens," but they didn't.

A sound bite on TV is a pretty good platform for somebody whose goal is to push a specific change in public opinion. The fact that the "protestors" seemingly weren't interested in that platform says to me that they're not really "protesting" at all -- they're not interested in changing public opinion, they just want to wear masks and smash stuff.
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"Anarchists look, sound, behave exactly how stereotypes portray them. Full story at 11."
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When will people start calling "Black Bloc" anarchy what it is, a form of white privilege coupled with cultural appropriation.
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Just to clarify, I'm not saying smashing stuff is part of anyone's culture. I'm saying that appropriating injustices done to one culture in order to justify your smashing, even though you benefit from the privilege of the culture in power (i.e. white privilege) is a form of culture appropriation and is just as bad as a white dude wearing a native head dress.
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@9 and then you go all grampa racist. I've assumed you've never read about the Chicago school and Pinochet? Yup, latin american counties have no spirit of independence, which is why they are all still ruled by the Spanish crown, and why over the 20th century it has a been a model in government stability.|

"The US then becomes a learning institution of revolutionary change exporting its graduates in the ways of the Constitutional Republic."

Hahaha we already are a exporting of revolutionary change- Haiti, Cuba, Panama, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Grenada, Columbia, Venezuela, Chile, Ecuador, Porto Rico, etc. If there is one thing Latin America is well experienced with, it is the Yankee revolutionary spirit.
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So from that times article- Does anyone get the sense that Labor didn't win a single concession from Business?
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@16 yeah...Honestly I wasn't pro 15Now (Thought it was too tough on small businesses), but after this whole thing I'm starting to get a lot more pro 15Now. It would be interesting to see how people pool on 15Now after this proposal.
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*poll
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Kshama Sawant, after a tough city council meeting, walks into an upscale bar. She finds a quiet table and orders a glass of wine. About half way through the wine, she realizes she's short on cash to pay the bill. She doesn't believe in plastic, so she pulls out her cell phone and gets someone on her staff to call the bar owners and pressure them to reduce their prices for the common workers.
A teabagger, overhearing the rather loud cell phone call, offers to pay for two glasses of wine and tip but refuses to pay her tax but Ms. Sawant could use the cash she has to pay for the tax.
An anarchist offers to pay what little he has to cover the bill and tax, but no tip – but also requires that he finish the wine in exchange for his generosity.
The bar manager comes back to say that they cannot lower the prices.
What will Ms. Sawant do?
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@16 true. i am curious whether the "labor" reps on the committee represent workers who currently make under $15/hr. if not it seems at least a bit presumptuous for those reps to complain about sawant's outside pressure when 15now is quite clearly well represented by those min wage workers. which is why I take issue with the times, or the stranger for that matter, making statements about what "labor" wants.
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@2 You mean apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health?

(Excellent question/reference!)
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Anarchists are whiny babies with poopy butts. Fuck off to Somalia and leave the civilized world to the rest of us, kthx.
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@11 you seem to have gotten, at least in part, what the message of the "ANTI-CAPITALIST MARCH" yet you still claim ignorance.

You might just have a career on a local news team.
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@26: And for whom does the military have its allegiance? The Muslim brotherhood, reform factions, others, all of the above? The question always goes to that level.
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So the anarchists are sponsored by KEXP or did they hijack KEXP's banner and write something stupid on the other side?
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@25 ..you make me fist pump.
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Phoebe, the military threw the Muslim Brotherhood out and killed some of them, so I don't think they have "allegiance" to them.
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WHAT?!?

nothing about the economy GROWING!

at .1%?

come on, give Your Shitty President the credit he deserves......
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We don't like anarchists.
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Imagine if people at demonstrations who speak with the press instead deferred to on-scene designated public relations staff who were prepared to respond with carefully-crafted messages in representation of the group.
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Forget everything you just heard, and go back to your job.
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@27

Um, I guess you sort of missed the part of recent history where the Egyptian military ousted the center-right Islamic coalition government, and then declared the Muslim Brotherhood illegal?

To answer Ansel's question: what happened to Egypt is that the West, and Leftists in the West in particular, decided they'd rather see a secular regime backed by the military and installed by coup than suffer the continued existence of a fairly elected Muslim parliamentary government.

What happened to Egypt, in other words, is exactly what people like Ansel fought to achieve in Egypt.
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@33

Imagine if people in internet comments threads didn't have to deal with self-appointed spokespersons desperately spinning arduous dogmatic rationales for abhorrently self-absorbed behavior on the part of protesters who presume to represent the majority of the population.
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these precious little turdlettes don't get that when 'anarchy' arrives it will consist of property and business owners taking baseball bats and bashing in their skulls
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@1
Somalia is a failed socialist state. Many anarchists like myself want a slow transition to self governance, not a rapid destruction of central government.
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@13 You nailed it!
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This picture sums up perfectly my kind of anarchism vs their kind of anarchism: http://www.lostrepublic.us/Graphics/Anar…

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