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Three cheers for Anna Minard.
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No, friend. Fifteen cheers for Anna Minard. It's the way we do things here now.
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Good news is Seattle will now be swarmed with lots of qualified workers, meaning I won't have to hire the fuckups anymore.
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Thanks Goldy!
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Why not report on how HA Blog sees the min wage?

"$15 in 2017 Dollars, by 2025"

For many workers that's exactly what the mayor is proposing.

Also, Goldy points out that the mayor's proposed wage table assumes a 2.4% inflation rate-- close to double the rate we've had the last few years. So the mayor's numbers likely exaggerate the post-$15/hr wages Seattle workers will receive.

Why did the Stranger fire the only legitimate wonk on staff?? You kids are lost without Grandpa Goldstein to walk you through the policy fine print.
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Face it, the only sane compromise would have been $22 by 2022 with a $21 training wage for teens, zero exemptions, and $15 for everyone in 2015.

Real wages for productivity minimum wage should be $27 today.

You're still serfs and my investments show the difference.
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This is truly an excellent and well-written piece, Anna Minard. Thank you!

Fifteen well-deserved kudos and shout-outs to you, and everyone looking
into every economic graph and pie chart that this new bar Seattle Mayor Ed
Murray and the City Council have raised nationally and globally.
It is important for our region to continue studying the pros and cons of what
the overall impact will be over the next seven years and beyond, and to adjust
for inflation and future generations.
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Tangentially; a bonus of this passing could be to help curb the proliferation of formula retail in Seattle since I haven't heard anything about city hall taking up that cause.
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Next stop: Maximum wage. Bring back the state high-earners income tax! We need that on the ballot every single year until it passes.
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I guess you missed this one: http://www.slate.com/articles/business/m…
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@6

still waiting for Schill in Seattle to explain how a burger flipper in 2014 is over 50% more efficient and productive than a burger flipper in 1968.

Have burger flippers upped their game? Are they flipping twice as many burgers in a one hour span that before?

Are waiters and waitresses 50% more efficient and productive than in 1968.

cmon now you chump - answer the question honestly....wait - you cant, because then it destroys your "we are underpaid!" mythos.

The truth you hate to admit, is that occupations who's productivity has increased over the last 45 years have also seen huge wage increases...and guess what, those occupations dont pay, and never had paid, minimum wage - they always paid much much more.

Dont they teach you schills how to understand and examine facts over at UW?
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can someone please name one or two minimum wage occupations that are 50%+ more efficient and productive than they were in 1968?

Cmon now - lets see the list.....

its the basis of your argument...surely you can name just a few of these super efficient minimum wage occupations.....

waiting........waiting.......waiting.......
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@10 Oh fuck Slate and their click farming.
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this proposal is not in place because of a nerdy seattle process. the nerdy seattle process happened because a bunch of activists pushed Sawant forward, she adopted this goal, she made murray adopt it, she and they the activists kept at it, most recently having a big socialist convention threatening quite seriously to do a charter amendment to get us to 415 by 1/1/15 -- this grass roots pressure is what is making the political leaders like murray and the 1%ers resopnd. NOT seattle process. NOTHING about Sawant and $15 now is seattle process. it's the opposite of seattle process. and see how it's working?

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Troll @11, actually, a burger-flipper in 2014 is almost certainly 50% or more productive than a similar worker in 1968, thanks to technology. What has happened since 1968 is that all the productivity gains of technology have gone to business owners and executives rather than to workers at large. There's no reason why those productivity gains shouldn't be distributed.

If you adjust for productivity, depending upon how you measure it, the national minimum wage would be somewhere between $16 and $22/hour. So $15/hour does not quite capture the proportional gains of productivity since 1968, even assuming the lower number.

This is also why we should be indexing to per capita productivity gains and not inflation.
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I tend to think of this the same way I think of the smoking ban and the plastic bag ban in Seattle. Imperfect, but I'd rather have it than not have it.
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Troll @15

what technology would that be?

hotter grills? pre-measured condiments?

sorry - I am not buying that bullshit.

the people and jobs that are infinitely more productive now than 40 years ago ALREADY make well beyond minimum wage.

sweeping a fucking floor with a broom has not changed in 200 years...

cleaning a toilet now is the same as it was when Nixon was president.

and being a lazy POS still pays now what it paid then - not much.
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@15: "What has happened since 1968 is that all the productivity gains of technology have gone to business owners and executives rather than to workers at large."

Who paid for that technology? The owners. So yes, they are the ones who should get the benefit of their investment. Likewise, if the workers were the ones who invested in technological improvements for their companies, then the benefits would be theirs, but that's not who's investing in the technology, is it?
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My concern is that as the tipped credit gets phased out in full service restaurants it will depress & stagnate kitchen wages, the group most deserving of a raise & where you are most likely to find minorities. Think about it for every kitchen guy there are at least 2 tipped employees. So the kitchen guy gets a $1/hr bump from $15 to $15 if he wasn't; there already, but the two tipped employees who already make over $20/hr each get a raise of $5.68 each. So of the $12.36 wage increases for these 3 employees the kitchen guy only see 8% of the increase, while the tipped employees see the other 92% of the increase. As tipped employees take more & more of the labor budget, as tip credit gets phased out, there will be less & less for kitchen raises & advancement.
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i'm just excited that tipping can go back to a rational 15% on pre-tax total.
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Anna said: Think about it: A year or two ago? A $15 minimum wage seemed kind of bonkers. This took a lot of work, and it will benefit tens of thousands of people here in Seattle, for sure—and then, if the trend continues, perhaps millions more across the nation. ...

Golly. How did this whole thing come about? There seems to be something missing from this story? I have a vague recollection of a person who ran for council with this issue as their centerpiece. Hmmm...
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It all goes to prove the validity of the logic for electing Sawant: shift the parameters of the debate to the left. This would not have happened without her victory, and the need of the Establishment liberals to co-opt and defuse it.
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@5

Remember that time Goldy was fired from The Stranger for being a worthless turd, that is proof positive that not every worker is worth $15 an hour.
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This news just in: The mayor has decided to phase-in his plan to eliminate restaurants and bars from Seattle. Instead of creating a large-scale Tenderloin District right away, as encouraged by economic laureate Kshama Sawant, the City has decided to phase-in "Operation Detroit" over the next 3-5 years.

Uncertainty exists as to the fate of current low-wage workers who discover fewer jobs, a higher cost of living, reduced hours, even higher productivity expectations, increased competition, and elimination of their Federal earned income tax credit.

The City has not yet determined where at least one (please just one), member of Council will take a very basic economics class in future, as the resources for Seattle Public Schools will now come under further serious pressure.

The announcement was greeted by nostalgists for the City's retro economic plans, who burned cars, threatened commuters, and broke windows on Capitol Hill in recognition: And by Vladimir Putin who commented from Kiev, "Dang, I thought everyone was going to do Kleptocracy a little longer. But Seattle is the sociopolitical tastemaker, and I guess 'throwback' is the thing that all the hep kids are doin' now."
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@25 FTW!

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Hooray! $15 is the minimum wage in Seattle now!

What, it isn't? Well, when will it be?

Who's declaring victory here, and why? All I see is a watered-down proposal from a watered-down mayor with no actual force of law. Wake me up when actual paychecks reflect a $15 minimum wage. Until then, stop cheering.
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A shame there is no more actual policy analysis now that Goldy was ousted. Instead we just get posts of simple graphs talking about how they are "too hard" to understand.

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