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Are the numbers adjusted for inflation? Why is the cost of this widget increasing so rapidly?
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Maybe he could create a digital library if he wants one - sortof update the idea. Way cheaper and doesn't create the massive funding issue. Also doesn't "belong" to any particular state.
But Illinois Democrats need to get their shit together and let go of the library thing if they can't pay their own bills - staunch liberal here telling them: this is just plain stupid. Please don't give conservatives a chance to look better than you over something this dumb...
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That's dumbfounding. At least sport arenas costing that much serve a popular purpose. Jesus...
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Dan is clearly Li(brary)-phobic. For shame.
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Look at it from Illinois' point of view, sheerly on the basis of economic development. If $100 M will get you $500 M, isn't that a worthy goal? Think of the jobs, the construction, the tourists.

Look at how other states pimp themselves out for auto assembly plants, or chip fabs, or aerospace companies, investing tons not only in long-term tax abatements, but actual money for construction, only to have those companies fuck over and abandon the state to more convenient climes whenever they want. (Boeing, anyone?)

At least a Presidential Library isn't going anywhere. That employment and tourism will stay put. And how many opportunities does a state get to develop a new historical attraction? France hasn't given us any new Statues of Liberty lately. I don't see Chicago getting a new Mt. Rushmore anytime soon.
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I made a WH petition: http://wh.gov/lG3o7

Dan, if you want to push this with a blog, go for it.
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Here's an idea. How about all the huge corporations, that have been profiting from Obama's lax government enforcement (See Eric Holder and Wall Street) fund the library.

I agree that he should donate his papers to the University of Chicago, but presidential egos are too damn big for such a modest gesture.
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A presidential library must create tens of jobs.
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@5: The tourists?

"Hey, mom and dad! Let's go to the Jimmy Carter's presidential library!"

"We're thinking about a honeymoon destination—maybe something near George H. W. Bush's presidential library, which we're both dying to visit."

"We summer in Cape Cod but we winter at Richard Nixon's presidential library."

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Ross Perot is building himself a Presidential Library in Dallas, and he wasn't even Prezdint.

I think Honolulu needs it more than Chicago.
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@9 Yeah, well you won't catch me standing in line, either. But, I've been to Chicago, and it's an okay city, but I wouldn't make a special trip to go sightseeing. No offense. Not sure what else in the state is worth a trip, either. Other than some Abe Lincoln stuff they've made into a tourist attraction, I couldn't blame Illinois for trying to latch on to some other smidgeon of history to call their own.

By the way, HumpTour was awesome. Thanks for the NYC run. On another note, if you haven't seen the transcript of the 4/23 oral arguments in the Oregon marriage equality case, it's a fun legal read, with the State siding with the Plaintiffs. The "argument" was entirely over what to base the decision on so it won't get overturned in the future. http://www.scribd.com/doc/221209347/Oreg…
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To be fair, GWB's library is more of an amusement park ride than an actual library.
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@7 That's pretty much who is going to pay for a Presidential library. I believe they're built primarily with private donations. Illinois is just offering to kick in state money to influence the future Board deciding to build it there.

Once built, the Feds pick up operating costs and salaries, wherever it's built.
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How is a Presidential Library paid for and funded?

A Presidential Library is constructed with private or non-Federal funds donated to non-profit organizations established usually for the express purpose of building a Presidential Library and supporting its programs. Some libraries have also received construction and development funding from state and/or local governments.

The library is then transferred to the Federal government and operated and maintained by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) through its congressionally appropriated operating budget. Some staff and programs at Presidential libraries are paid for with funds from associated private foundations organized to fund the construction of the library and provide continuing support for library programs and special events, such as conferences and exhibitions.


Looks like most of the up front funds are from private donations and the rest come from the national archives.

Taxpayers will pay for the archivists either way (state level for U of C or federal level for an independent library) so WTF cares if the contents of Obama's file cabinets go to a university or a privately funded library? Why wouldn't Illinois pay $100k for $500M worth of construction and librarian jobs?
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@9 - On the other hand, if you find yourself in Independence, Missouri for some godawful reason, there are worse ways to spend a day than touring the Truman home, library, and/or museum.
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Two words: legacy control. It's big business. Imagine putting all the papers, tapes, e-mails, etc. of any modern president into a giant freely available digital archive. (One possible upside is the distraction of thousands of conspiracy theorists who would otherwise be preoccupied with current events.)

Put another way, imagine the chaos of putting the full holdings of any major museum (Smithsonian, etc.) in giant warehouses with minimal curation, organization or signage.

I don't have an answer; it does seem that the cost trend is unsustainable.
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The reason presidents used to come and go without a library was that the Presidential Libraries Act was passed in 1955, and only covers presidents since Hoover. There are some earlier presidents, like Lincoln, who also have libraries, but they're not in the National Archives system. This shit is all on Wikipedia. Obama can't really put a stop to it; he'd have to ask Congress to repeal the 1955 law, and the Presidential Records Act of 1978 and the Presidential Libraries Act of 1986.

And of course the way all that would look is that Obama was trying to hide documents from the public. So Obama would never even consider such a foolish move, even if Congress were about to change these laws.

Why to rich people donate more than ever to these things? Because rich people today have more of the money than ever. The more wealth gets concentrated at the top, the bigger the monuments the rich can buy.
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Let next banking crisis and crashed economy be the monument to Obama's legacy to the nation. Or maybe a bronze plaque on the cross continent oil sludge pipeline. We are all moving forward, right?
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Two more words: brand management. It's a way of maximizing the income possible from book deals and lecture tours; and, to be fair, the amount of good that can be done by initiatives more ambitious than paint-by-numbers. Those, in turn, are forms of compensation that offset in part the actual paltry financial compensation while in the White House and the relatively few opportunities there for outright Yanukovych-style theft. It helps make the presidency somewhat more attractive to people who aren't billionaires going in.

As above @17, I'm deeply ambivalent.
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Thomas Jefferson arguably started this, when he donated all his books to congress upon his death. That later became the Library of Congress (which is an awesome building to visit if you are a book nerd, or just like old domed architecture).

Rather than build a new library for every president, they aught to just hand over their archives to the Library of Congress and be done with it.
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Pharaohs love their pyramids.
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Is the Savagerian insistence on Ms Clinton being the only possible successor to the incumbent coming from a desire for maximum value of Republicans having to eat it, or will Mr S's women friends with "fabulous" apartments drop him from their guest lists if he doesn't toe the establishment line. I'd have preferred Ms C to her husband, but surely now there must be other women. Now that one-term senators are no longer ruled out, why not get two firsts with one election and elevate Ms Baldwin? If marriage is still trending in the right direction, she could even wed during the campaign, and despite years of having to beat the system, she still has some air of freshness that seems to be an asset.

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