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Will Russia Go Further?

Eli Sanders
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Flip a coin. I've seen a dozen conflicting opinions from people whose opinions would be trustworthy. If they go they go to the river that divides the nation and stop... at first. The liquid gas reserves are expected to decline in Russian stock by 2050-2070, I'd heard. If it's worse, they may go early to try to sustain themselves somehow if their nation's finances are in worse shape than suspected.
Joe Szilagyi on March 27, 2014 at 7:01 AM Report this
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This is pretty much my strategy when I play civ.
tigntink on March 27, 2014 at 7:13 AM Report this
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Russia, U.S. and China can all get away with close to anything in their region of influence. China and the U.S. have much closer economic ties which neither wants to risk. But Republicans had a policy of poking the Russian bear with a stick and now it's coming back to haunt Europe.
Pope Peabrain on March 27, 2014 at 7:33 AM Report this
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@4 Reagan's missiles? Aggressive expansion of NATO?
Pope Peabrain on March 27, 2014 at 8:43 AM Report this
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@5

Oh, you mean "The Cold War." You're right, that was pretty provocative stuff.
robotslave on March 27, 2014 at 8:53 AM Report this
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Russia isn't the Soviet Union. The NYT article should had shown how Russia's military had shrunk and parts of it have become non functional, (like its nuclear submarine fleet)

As much as the article states the US doesn't have a carrier task force in the Mediterranean, Russia would have a diffcult time in trying to put together a carrier task fortce, let alone try to get it throuh the Bosporous.

NATO can easily take care of Russia, if it tries to do the same thing to Lithiuania or Estonia, which has a share of ethnic Russian as part of the population.
ferret on March 27, 2014 at 8:57 AM Report this
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Slog post, March 27, 1938: Will Germany go further?
Phoebe in Wallingford on March 27, 2014 at 10:03 AM Report this
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Crimea depends on Ukraine for most of its energy needs.

Ukraine depends on Russia for most of its fuel supplies.

Eastern Ukraine is aligned with Russia and is key to the above circle of dependence.

Russia will invade eastern Ukraine under the guise of protecting the people and energy supply lines for Crimea. Kiev has been playing into this strategy by shutting off power to Crimea during the invasion and causing rolling blackouts.

We will soon have Eastern Ukraine and Western Ukraine much like we had Eastern and Western Germany...with Crimea as the beginnin of another "Eastern Bloc."

The questions are...
1. Where and when will Putin stop?
2. Why will (would) Putin stop?
3. What, if anything, and when, if ever, will the Obama administration do more than huff, puff, and threaten something beyond sanctions?
on March 27, 2014 at 10:42 AM Report this
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1. Going Godwin never helps your case.
2. Pearls: Clutched.
wasd on March 27, 2014 at 10:53 AM Report this
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@11: Not Godwin, Santayana.
Phoebe in Wallingford on March 27, 2014 at 12:10 PM Report this
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1. The very fact that we have a debate over whether or not this is comparable to Nazi Germany's expansion is sort of proof that we haven't forgotten the past.
2. Jimmies: Rustled.
venomlash on March 27, 2014 at 12:40 PM Report this
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@13: So what? Just because of Godwin's law means that such comparisons are thereby negated?
Phoebe in Wallingford on March 27, 2014 at 2:15 PM Report this
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Yes, they will. Because Putin is Hitler. Haven't you heard? Hillary said so. Ready for Hillary? http://warisacrime.org/hillary
Linda J on March 27, 2014 at 2:43 PM Report this
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@13

We hadn't forgotten WWI when WWII broke out, but remembering one didn't prevent the other. If anything, the memory served to escalate the inevitable conflict.

How does one reason history with Putin when he's obviously confused old, History Channel reruns with instructional how-to videos?
on March 27, 2014 at 6:25 PM Report this

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