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How does Uber or anyone else propose to prevent insurance companies from canceling personal policies once they find out drivers are carrying riders for hire?

Drivers aren't just risking a claim not being paid, they are risking cancellation! And not just for their "rideshare" car but all cars on that policy.

Don't people read their insurance policies anymore?
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@1: Insurance policies do allow you to claim that you carry passengers regularly in the vehicle for commercial purposes, so these drivers may have revised their policies to reflect this.

However, most probably don't seeing as how it raises your premiums.
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the insurance is in case there's no other insurance. the problem is $100K they are going to provide is peanuts. it will not protect you if you are in a wheelchair, or if you lose two years of work and need several operations. you need a MUCH higher limit on the insurance, like a million or more. THEN 99% are protected. to actually "insure" everyone you need insurance that's got a three million dollar limit. then 99.9 %are fully protected. these super high limits aren't that much more, either. I got one for three million, an umbrella, it was only a few hundred a year. of course a person giving rides all the time would be charged more, but if they have to pay $2K a year so be it. THAT's where we should come down on them and also make the same high limit apply to taxis, too. and btw, why not all drivers? these little tiny policies of $100K and $300K work for 80% or 90% of all cases, and should work for 99.9% of all cases. this is why it's called inSUREance. with the low limit, it's inMAYBEance.
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All I read about Uber is not positive. Gett and Lyft seem to be pretty basic, but Uber feels like a wall street scam.
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Starting today, if a driver’s personal insurance policy is found not to cover an accident during this period, this new policy will provide contingent coverage for a driver’s liability at the highest requirement of any state in the U.S: $50,000/individual/incident for bodily injury, $100,000 total/incident for bodily injury and $25,000/incident for property damage.

Seems kind of skimpy, or I am way over-insured with my own policy recommendations as a Seattle driver.

Bodily Injury
$100,000/Person - $300,000/Accident
Property Damage
$100,000
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#UberFraud
This is still GARBAGE insurance coverage! UberX & Lyft areSTILL STATING that any claims involving an UberX/Lyft drivers to be FIRST filed with the drivers' insurance. It doesn't matter if the UberX/Lyft driver is between rides, engaged in a ride...the drivers' personal car insurance is still the PRIMARY policy, UberX/Lyft's insurance policies are STILL EXCESS LIABILITY ONLY and SECONDARY to the drivers' PERSONAL CAR INSURANCE policies. The FACT is that personal car insurance EXCLUDES livery or vehicle for hire activities!
The ONLY way out of this ride-sharing insurance charade is either to make UberX's policies the PRIMARY, or require UberX drivers to get commercial livery insurance! STOP PLAYING AROUND THE BUSHES, TRAVIS KALANICK!! PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOOD AND SAFETY IS AT STAKE!!
Please follow me on Twitter @chi1cabby for this #UberFraud!
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Mandatory minimums for individual policies are not the same as the requirements for commercial policies. Without a requirement that they provide the same coverage as taxis are required to have, it means nothing. That is like comparing accidental death insurance to real life insurance. Not the same. Not even close.
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@6, @7 - there are a number of horror stories from drivers who have tried to make claims against the taxi cab insurance companies... often because the cab insurance companies are run by the same people who run the cab company (akin to being self insured). Let's not pretend that taxi insurance is the gold standard here.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-new…
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/24/nyregi…
And last year a jury tried to make him whole financially with a $3.2 million award for damages. But it was mostly an empty promise.

Already undone by an erratic cabby, Mr. Shalala then fell victim to the dodging and weaving the taxi industry uses to avoid paying large claims, even in devastating accidents. Unable to collect the jury's award, Mr. Shalala settled this year with the taxi company for $132,000.
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Consider the case of Thomas Armstrong, a blind pencil seller who, along with his dog, Smokey, was hit by a cab in 1992 outside of Tiffany & Company. Mr. Armstrong required operations for a broken leg and shoulder, and needs a walker to get around. In 1997 he won a $965,000 award against Brant Taxi Inc., but so far he has been able to get only $10,000 of it.

Exasperated, Mr. Armstrong's lawyers moved to seize the company's medallions last fall. The company then filed for bankruptcy to prevent Mr. Armstrong from recovering money by forcing the sale of its medallions. In its bankruptcy filing, Brant Taxi said it was simply trying to reorganize ''free from creditor harassment.''

Its biggest creditor, Mr. Armstrong, now 70, said: ''I'm getting tired of waiting. But there ain't nothing I can do.''
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@6: You may or may not have valid points, but you come across like a crazy person, which weakens whatever argument you're trying to make.

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@ChefJoe, there is no self insured plan at any of Seattle's cab companies. In fact, it is prohibited by Seattle's taxi regulations. Your post is irrelevant to the situation here.

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Lyft/UberX new plans require that their driver who is at a fault for an accident first file a claim with his insurance company and that it be denied before their plan kicks in. If the driver's insurer finds out that the non-commercial policy is being asked to cover a taxi business, it will deny the claim and cancel the driver's policy. And to be put a cherry on top, Uber/Lyft will fire the driver.

Sometimes the insurer will sometimes pay the claim because they don't know that their policyholder is operating a taxi business. But insurance fraud is built into the whole scheme.

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