Sometimes bullets fly around for no reason at all. Nothing to be done about it.

Yea, clearly only members of the Government should be armed.

"Representative Leslie Combs (D- Pikeville) says she was unloading a Ruger LCP .380 according to safety procedure when it accidentally fired."

I'm pretty sure that if you actually follow the procedure it doesn't accidentally fire.

@3 well assuming that the first step of the safety procedure was "do not empty your gone by pulling the trigger", yes.

Fucking Gun-Fetish Death Cult.

@3
Exactly, you keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. Fortunately she did follow the "Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction."

@5
Yea GODDAMN personal Freedom, and right to self-defense.

The monopoly on force should be completely in the hands of the state, what could go wrong.

Moron.

Yeah so no harm no foul you babies

@7 Thinking that your weapon stash is somehow going to defend you against the government is naïve.

There is no safety on this type of handgun. Typically you keep it safe by not putting a round in the chamber. And if you put a round in the chamber and want to holster it again, you had damn well better be careful as you unload it. This is probably what happened here, she probably bumped the trigger while removing the magazine.

She says she strongly supports the Second Amendment, but also says she supports "gun safety" - so why not require that everyone take a gun safety course as a pre-requisite for gun ownership? She says she did, and still had an "accident", but was smart enough to have it pointed in a "safe" direction, so at least something stuck.....

@ 7, if you need a gun for self defense, you're doing it wrong.

She should no longer be allowed to own a gun.

Period.

Where did this happen? In the South. Gee, what a surprise.

Let's saw the South off of the USA and set it afloat.

sounds like it scared the crap out of her, at least.

@6, coming from you, I am not surprised to hear "pointed in a safe direction" to refer to a hard floor in a populated office building. I'll trust my government over mentally-damaged psychos like you, waving guns around in the street, any old day.

It's hardly even worth an 'oops', because according to the death cult, no mistakes were made. Nothing can change the minds of the well regulated militia. No amount of blood, no number of dead children, no intelligent arguments or heartfelt prayers can move this debate. It is a terrible sickness from which they have no wish to be cured. God help us all.

So she's saying if we arm all the teachers, then the occasional wild shot around the classroom is something that inevitably goes along with that?

Got it. I'll make a note of it.

Dear Cascadian Bacon @ 7...

FUCK you and your

Fucking.

Gun.

FETISH.

Death.

Cult.

Gun safety procedure: try not to get stuck with a pistol-packin' mama as an office-mate.

fe·tish noun \ˈfe-tish also ˈfē-\
: a strong and unusual need or desire for something

: a need or desire for an object, body part, or activity for sexual excitement

: an object that is believed to have magical powers

Full Definition of FETISH

1
a : an object (as a small stone carving of an animal) believed to have magical power to protect or aid its owner; broadly : a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence
b : an object of irrational reverence or obsessive devotion : prepossession
c : an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression
2
: a rite or cult of fetish worshipers
3
: fixation

"Fetish." Merriam-Webster.com. Merriam-Webster, n.d. Web. 8 Jan. 2014. .

@15: http://completeoutrageredux.files.wordpr…

@20
Easy there psycho.

@15
I too support states rights.

@12
Yea Shatt from Denver, as an emasculated halfwit in Colorado you must be an expert on self defence and personal security.

@7: Abrams for everyone!

@23, you missed. That's only Florida. Kentucky's up that away. Wouldn't miss all those others between them much, either.

A well designed gun would not fire accidentally. This isn't rocket science. We should demand competent engineering.

@24...

Who's the psycho?

A psycho will excuse blowing up babies so they can fondle their Mauser.

THAT's a fetish, asshole.

Own it.

Damned gun-totin' Democrats.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/08…

Welcome to Lowe's! How may I shoot you? (P.S. 23 kids accidentally shot last week) GunFAIL LI

No Gun Fetish Death Cult here. No sireeeeeee Bobbbbbeee.

@28
Perhaps the psycho is the one spewing profanity due their inability to understand the simple concept of human rights.

Apparently dead babies are only ok when they are killed by King Obama's drones.

@ 24, you've told more stories about perceived threats to your safteperson here on Slog than I've ever experienced. You know why? Because the first rule of safety is staying out of harm's way. And yes. I've lived in high crime neighborhoods, and was also a punk rocker back when that alone was routinely taken as an excuse to get your ass kicked, even in the big city.

So thanks for observing that I do know a lot about personal safety. Much more than you, if your troubles are a fair measure (which they are).

Oops, looks like I forgot to erase "safety" when I decided "person" was a better word.

"Avoiding the Negligent Discharge" from a website called "usconcealedcarry.com." https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/article…

Opening paragraph: "I will never use the term accidental discharge when talking about a firearm. That is because firearms do not fire themselves. They do not “go off.” There is a specific series of steps that must be completed in order to make a firearm go from quiet to loud. If that firearm becomes loud before you intend it to become loud, you are negligent."

@31: I can oppose drones AND support gun control at the same time! Oh look, I'm in favor of NOT KILLING PEOPLE.

@31...

Hey Cascadian PIG...the illegal war in Iraq slaughtered 100,000 Iraqi men, women and children and not a peep out of you, O' paragon of morality and virtue. I'd spit in your face, sir.

According to The Stranger last weekend, a handgun went off in State Senator Pam Roach's purse during a legislative karaoke event - so yes, it does happens to our elected public servants on occasion.

@37...

State Senator Pam (Bam) Roach is the very last person who should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon.

I grew up with I don't know how many guns in the house - at least 5, maybe 10 or 15. And they were NEVER accidentally discharged. They were also only ever loaded so as to be immediately fired. At a firing range. They were never loaded in the house. They were never loaded in the car. And when they weren't being taken to the firing range or being cleaned they were locked, unloaded, in a gun locker. The ammo was locked in a separate locker. Because my parents weren't interested in "it happens". It doesn't fucking happen! Irresponsible, dumb, poorly trained people happen!

It's frustrating to read stories like this. Because I know it's possible to own guns and never accidentally shoot anything. Anytime. Ever. And it's possible to have a very heavily armed populace and very little gun crime (hello, Switzerland!). But fuck, people in this country are fucking dumb about their guns. And gun safety. And gun training. And gun licensing. And gun selling. And ... and ... and
I would say that these people are just making it harder on themselves but somehow they always manage to spin this stuff to make it look like they're the injured party. And scream about making sure the government doesn't mess with the Second Amendment. Which apparently guarantees the right of the mentally ill to buy automatic weapons by the truck load with no waiting period and no gun safety or protocol classes.

Speaking of simple concepts, Five Large, gun ownership is a Constitutional right, but it's not a human right. Human rights have to do with people just being allowed to live their lives unmolested. It's not so much concerned with matters of citizenship. True, they overlap a lot, but not in this instance.

This gun has a hugely long trigger pull, it's only real safety mechanism. It feels terribly long if you are distance target shooting. I guess she intentionally pulled it before dropping the magazine and racking the slide. Which is a paramount sin.

To Goldy's great dismay however, the firearm was not pointed at the forehead of a beatific smiling toddler.

@32
Congratulations Shatt You have completed your Primary plan for personal security, Now you only need to get Alternate, Contingency and Emergency plans. Risk Management 101, plus my background in corrections and Emergency medicine might have colored my outlook just a little. But thanks for proving that you can only hide or run from problem, I expected as much.

@36
When the I war started I vividly recall being teargased by San Francisco's finest while you were probably mewling about Bush II. Just a reminder that Obama continued W's foreign policy, people didn’t just stop dying once King Barack got into office, in fact he expanded both our military intervention and invasion of privacy under the patriot act and the NDAA. Excellent job proving yourself to be an idiot who only sees in black and white, Republican VS Democrat. Also your attempt at tough talk doesn’t mean much from someone who is afraid of inanimate objects.

And I am done with giving Goldstein page views for the evening, he should seriously cut me a check. I'm off to the secret NRA headquarters for drinks with Wayne LaPierre and Emily Miller.

@40
Self defence is a human right, but keep repeating your little statist dogma and one day it may be true.

@43, repeat after me - Obama, Benghazi.... Obama, Benghazi. Wow are you fukt in the head.

@10 While that would seem prudent, I'll bet you > 90% of training classes for small double-action automatics teach carrying a round in the chamber, even if they don't have a mechanical safety, and that a similar majority of people who carry them around do that, regardless of whether they've had any training. The assumption is that, like a double-action revolver, the trigger pull is long and heavy enough that it won't happen accidentally. Not exactly a fool-proof proposition, but it's a surprisingly popular idea.

@ 42/43, what problem? See, Five Large, the difference between you and me is that you're paranoid and macho, a dangerous combination, and I'm sensible and aware. And yes, self defense IS a human right, but we just got finished proving that guns aren't necessary. Unless you live in a state that is trying to oppress and kill you, which isn't true in the USA.

@42...

So full of shit your ears stink.

@10, My .380 two safeties- a button on the side of the handle that you switch and a lever in the grip that you have to be squeezing for it to fire. I do not know if it is a Reuger, though, maybe hers was different.

@Matt from Denver

Duuuude, you are so self-centered it's insane.

"if you need a gun for self defense, you're doing it wrong."

Unless you're confronted by an attacker that's significantly larger than you, multiple attackers, or an attacker with a deadly weapon? Those things do happen.

"Because the first rule of safety is staying out of harm's way. And yes. I've lived in high crime neighborhoods, and was also a punk rocker..."

"So thanks for observing that I do know a lot about personal safety. Much more than you, if your troubles are a fair measure (which they are)."

So because you've never experienced a situation in which you needed to defend your life, than nobody has, or if they did than they deserved or were otherwise asking for it? Those are some serious privileged/victim blaming statements dude.

"but we just got finished proving that guns aren't necessary. Unless you live in a state that is trying to oppress and kill you, which isn't true in the USA. "

First of all, you didn't prove anything, you just said "if you need a gun for self defense, you're doing it wrong." Hardly proof. Secondly, what do you mean that that isn't true in the USA? Do you read the white-and-middle-class-only news? Are you at all familiar with the history of the US? Just because oppression, sometimes lethal oppression, isn't omnipresent and happening to you doesn't mean it hasn't and doesn't happen. Read a goddam book.

P.S. If you seriously think that the US government doesn't oppress and kill people than you were NEVER a punk. I don't give a shit how many bands you've seen or played in. Seriously.

In over forty years of handling guns and firing literally several hundred thousand rounds of ammunition, I have never had an accidental firing of a weapon. I think this is true for many. Lots of scared stupid people carry guns today..

@ 49, when you or Five Large make a great case for your paranoia, or even the case for a gun being your best means of self defense, I'll put more effort into my responses. Until then, you get the rebuttals that your weak tea arguments merit.

@45: The argument is that a person loses fine muscle control when they are in a terrifying situation. So it would be better to just have the gun ready to shoot. And perhaps this makes sense if you are expecting to go into actual combat. But to me it just shows a lack of training.

How do you prepare for an emergency of any type? The answer is the same as it has always been: you drill, drill, and then drill some more. Only proper training will allow someone with a concealed weapon to use it in an emergency. And with drilling they don't have to use stupid gimmicks like keeping a round chambered to counter their own nerves.

@52' who's paranoia? The woman being stalked? The 100lb elderly woman alone in her house? You're too high and mighty every time you pull your dick out of the poodle you old fuck.

@54 The last thing a women should do is have a gun in the home. The likelihood of a women with a gun in the home being murdered is three times higher than a women without a gun in the home.

Yes. Gun fetish death cult.

http://www.theintelligencer.com/archives…

@42..unless the asswipe was part of the break-off group that started willfully trashing a high-end shopping district Cascadian Pig is like I said...full of shit.

"Thousands Protest War in San Francisco
San Francisco Anti-War Demonstration Draws More Than 100,000; Bush Supporters Gather in Denver


Posted: Sunday, February 16, 2003 12:00 am
By ANGELA WATERCUTTER | 0 comments
Associated Press Writer
More than 100,000 people hit the streets of San Francisco on Sunday to join the voices around the world this weekend protesting a possible U.S. invasion of Iraq.
Demonstrators had postponed their event one day to make way for the city's popular Chinese New Year parade and celebration. But the delay didn't hamper turnout, which appeared to swell throughout the day.
"Finally it seems there is a worldwide movement saying this is obviously a catastrophic path we're on," said Deborah Hoffmann, 55, part of a group of Arab and Israeli women. "And now everybody is out in the streets."
A steady stream of chanting, sign-waving protesters filled 12 large city blocks stretching from the waterfront to City Hall. Police estimated the crowd at 150,000 people. Other estimates claimed 250,000.
Protesters, including actor Danny Glover, writer Alice Walker and singers Bonnie Raitt and Joan Baez, tied the San Francisco event to a worldwide series of demonstrations held Saturday around the world.
"We know that we have not been shown enough evidence for a preemptive strike," said Raitt said. "There are a million people around the globe who have shown they feel the same way."
After the main demonstration, a group of a few hundred people, some masked in bandanas, marched to the city's posh Union Square shopping area, where some pelted police officers with rocks and other objects. Police in riot gear closed off some stores to prevent looting, but there were no immediate reports of arrests, and reasons for the trouble were unclear."

@55 I'm curious to find out where you found that statistic

Don't forget that Five Large enjoys profiting off the deaths of children as part of his death cult fetish. That's how he got his oh-so-appropriate nickname.

@ 57, look what came up with my very first google result when I copied the entire phrase "The likelihood of a woman with a gun in the home being murdered" from @ 55.

The cost-benefit balance of having a gun in the home is especially negative for women, according to a 2011 review by David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. Far from making women safer, a gun in the home is “a particularly strong risk factor” for female homicides and the intimidation of women.

In domestic violence situations, the risk of homicide for women increased eightfold when the abuser had access to firearms, according to a study published in The American Journal of Public Health in 2003. Further, there was “no clear evidence” that victims’ access to a gun reduced their risk of being killed. Another 2003 study, by Douglas Wiebe of the University of Pennsylvania, found that females living with a gun in the home were 2.7 times more likely to be murdered than females with no gun at home.

I'm sure this has to do with the fact that gun nuts also tend to be controlling misogynists, but still, a statistical finding is a statistical finding. Argue against it at your own peril.

49 and 52 pretty much nailed Shatt from Denver’s pedantic self involved rambling

@56
The War started on March 20, 2003 idiot.
http://foundsf.org/index.php?title=%E2%8…

@58
Yea neighbor, dead children should only be used to promote the progressives anti-human rights political goals. You lose that 50 pounds yet fatty?

@59
Female "a gun in the home" and a female who owns and carries a firearm are two separate issues. "A gun in the home" could very well belong to an abusive significant other.

The accusation of misogyny is pretty laughable considering you want a world where the weak have no defense against the strong.

#56: Hey Internet Tough Guy. Fetish? Death Cult?! Are you fucking serious? Put down the crack-pipe and take a look through your posts in this thread and marvel at the sheer unhinged-ness of your internet bad-ass self.
It must suck to not have the dangly bits to do anything but be an inadequate miserable cunt who's only discernible talent is projection.
Seek help immediately.

@ 60, HAHAHAHAHAHA... Oh Five Large, you slay me. Figuratively speaking. You care about the safety of women ONLY to the extent that it lets YOU keep building your arsenal, and to the point that pointing to someone else's potential victimization justifies your own agoraphobia. In other words, you couldn't care less about any of the raped and mudered, especially in light of the fact I uncovered @59.

@60...

Even a precious fuckwad is entitled to a Kudo. Here's yours from 2000 fucking three.

What happened? How did the Cascadian PigBrisket become such a misanthropic prick? And an advocate of slaughtering defenseless women and children...AAAAND an apologist for the Gun Fetish Death Cult?

Oh well...we all have our journey.

@61...

Oh GOWRSH....scaremescaremescareme.

Read my lips shit-for-brains...

GUN.

FETISH.

DEATH.

CULT.

(I just read the body of this Krazy-Kracker's work. Dude is seriously map-adjusted.)

@60 - That would be funny if it weren't so deadly. Having an arsenal does not equal human rights, no matter how many times you say it.

And it's 38 pounds now.