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Oh no, Christians are going to cry about it. Let them cry about it. And then let them either allow it on that property, or let them take down their own monument.
2
Perhaps inspired by the atheist bench monument that also made news, I've heard suggestions that Satan's lap can be used as a seat, which just looks unbelievably uncomfortable.
3
I love it. Satanism is as absurd as Christianity. But if Christians want to use government to push their nonsense, Satanists should do them same. Maybe they should just take down their Ten Hypocrisies.
4
This is a fantastic idea. The whole point is: "No religious icons funded by the government should be put on public property." Defenders of the First Amendment want them to remove everything to keep government services secular. A big-ass Satan statue will drive that point home even faster.

Let Fox News crusade. Their position is so illogical if you just think about it for a minute that their crusade will fall flat. They'd be forced to argue that Satanists aren't allowed First Amendment rights on par with Christians.
5
I guarantee you it couldn't be more aesthetically offensive than the Oklahoma Historical Society building across the street from the Capitol.

P.S. I hope Satan's statue is well-endowed.
6
I believe the Spaghetti monster folks are already planning something
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@3: Couldn't have said it better myself, Your Holiness.
8
Well played. Also, Satanism is a sect of Christianity.
9
It's over- the-top ugly. It's point won't be heard.

Something funnier - like FSM - would be more effective.
10
They're going to have to make this out of something really, really durable because the fundies will be down there with sledge hammers and pick axes crushing it to rubble the first chance they get.

Because, you know, Love One Another...
11
Christians frequently complain about atheists trying to stop them from doing harmless things like putting up the ten commandments.

Now the christians are complaining that another religious group is engaging in the same harmless activities.

Fucking hypocrites. This is why atheists become combative.
12
How's that stat go... Based on analyzing the bible God has killed millions while Satan has killed only a handful.

So why is that God person so popular? He sounds like a sociopath.
13
The secular movement has been trying for decades to remove religious references from the public square and it (a) failed and (b) engendered a backlash. This is a brilliant plan B. I don't know of a plan C honestly.
14
What race will they depict Satan as? Will Satan have a penis or vagina? What does the beardy Duck guy have to say about this?
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@11: It's not that atheists are combative, it's that they have to resort to the same tricks as the Christians, which is something Christians only perceive of as being combative because they personally don't like it.
16
I personally love it. Also, I think we should erect statues to other figments of the imagination -- Poseidon, maybe Snow White, and an elf or two.
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@12: If you believe the bedtime stories in the Bible, Satan also arguably gave us the seeds for logic. When he asked Eve why she thought God wouldn't allow her to eat from the tree, and why she was blindly following orders without understanding the repercussions of not doing so, she began to think for herself.
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@12 - It's a form of Stockholm syndrome.
19
Oh, but it's so much fun to see the fundies have a gigantic hissy fit.

I've popped some popcorn for the next hilarious episode in this sitcom.
20
I'd prefer something in more of a "Buddy Lucifer" a la the movie Dogma.
21
So Paul, when you say, "other non-Christian religions are just going to get swept up in the same category as the Satanists, whether they like it or not."

Would you care to expand on what you mean by that, exactly? Or is "satanism" somehow not a religion in the same way as 'other non-Christian religions'?
22
The design for the statue (saw it on MSN.com) looks adorable. Comfy lap like MacCrocodile said, plus goat head and two little children (suffer those little children) gazing in awe. There should be one in every city.
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@4 --- "if you just think about it for a minute, their crusade will fall flat."

So in other words, their crusade will have a long & healthy life.
24
It's not a bad idea, but adding the children means it's just deliberate over-the-top and designed to provoke an extreme reaction--and some people really are terrified of their imaginary monsters. I say it's deliberately insensitive, although I don't know if insensitivity to others is part of this group's philosophy. I would be in favor of a more serious attempt to insist on religious freedom that would help educate people about Satan and Lucifer, who are not the same figure and neither of them is evil. All evil is man made (and some women cause trouble too ;-)
25
Great idea + Why not == 60%. Praise satan hail tofu.
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@4 - you will be delighted to know that creep Jolly Jerry Falwell (may he RIH) sic'ed his Liberty U legal hounds on my local county public school system for preventing some family from using a school paper mail system to distribute leaflets promoting their bible study/camp/thingy. He successfully argued they could either allow no exchange of fliers or had to allow all and not discriminate.

Once he'd succeeded and done all the heavy legal lifting, a local pagan group (operating out of the local Unitarian Church) capitalized by using the same system to advertise a pagan mid-winter celebration (not saturnalia or the solstice AFAIK, but a competing "Christmas" nontheless).

The final result was that the school system shut down (after distributing the pagan flyer) use of the system for anything but official school business (which is where it ought to have been from the get-go). Too many Christians want "freedom of religion" to mean nothing more than freedom of sect/denomination.

Oklahoma is the best possible place this could happen...Inhofe can choke on it.
27
The statue is beautiful. The children of Oklahoma, such as Sammie Chavez, are exactly who this statue is for.
28
I love this idea and gleefully anticipate any response from Scalia.
29
"But this is just going to start another dumbshit Fox News crusade and other non-Christian religions are just going to get swept up in the same category as the Satanists"

First of all, fuck FOX. Who cares if they get in a tizzy about it? Should we cater to moronic christian fundamentalists just because we're afraid that they might be upset? I say throw their own logic in their faces. Sure, they may sweep every other religion into the same catagory as Satanists, but that's on THEM (and I'm pretty sure they do that anyway). And if people of other non-christian religions (Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hindu, etc...) are so worried about christian's opinions that they're willing to denigrate someone else's religion (Satanism) like some sort of heathen apologists, than fuck those people too.

Can we just stop being afraid of christians already?
30
Real life trolling. I love it. Can we get one here?
31
The proposed statue is not of Satan. It is Baphomet, the goat-horned hermaphrodite invoked by many Gnostics and practitioners of the occult arts. Many Satanists have appropriated the Seal of Baphomet as their symbol. My only complaint is that Baphomet is usually depicted with breasts, an erection (or at least a caduceus symbolizing one) and fewer clothes. But if you want a lap for kids to sit on, it makes sense to honor the sensibilities of your typical Oakie and put some clothes on the statue. Think about the kids and all.
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@31 - Maybe the Seattle one can have breasts and an erection. I hope so.
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@31: [nitpick] It's Okie, not Oakie (as in an "Okie parking brake", a hunk of brick lodged behind the wheel of a car parked on a hill.)

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