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800 Maynard Ave S, Suite 200, Seattle, WA 98134
800 Maynard Ave S, Suite 200, Seattle, WA 98134
Are they going to give our 5000 tickets for pot?
Hey, Seattle's budget crisis is over!
If the City of Seattle agrees to a set fine / ticket / citation for smoking in public, three things happen:
1. anyone afraid they might get caught by the police smoking in public will now know what will likely happen to them if they are. A known risk is always better than an unknown risk.
2. The line police officers will know what they're supposed to do when confronted with a group of people obnoxiously smoking who refuse to stop. They'll have clear direction. Without clear direction, each cop has to make that decision himself.
3. people cited for smoking in public can always argue i-75 before the magistrate. I suppose they might request a list of all other calls to 9-11 at the time of the citation. Sounds like a pretty easy ticket to get out of to me.
Here's Seattle's transit budget for 2014:
http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/jil…
@3 eat it, use a vaporizer, etc. Also Pete Holmes is pushing the WSLCB to allow private smoking clubs for tourists and those in non-smoking apartments.
Proposed Legal Pot Rules Filed
I, personally, have been walking down the street with a bunch of kids when we accidentally walked into the cloud of someone who was smoking and walking about 10 yards ahead of us. The kids all covered their faces. They. Could. Not. Breathe.
Why not? Well, aside from the sheer gross factor, asthma is a big problem in poor communities! So, we all risked our lives crossing the busy street without a crosswalk just so we could both breathe and walk at the same time. Is it really asking too much to keep the air just a little cleaner for asthmatic kids?
Keep it at home and seal up your windows. No one wants to inhale your junk.
let people smoke in public. if someone's smoke bothers you if it's wafting in the window, sue them. or let's give them a ticket for trespass or malicious mischief IF the smoke is ENTERING your property. otherwise if you're on the street, how about this if you don't like something:
step away and let people be.
same with booze. why should it be illegal to drink on the street?
why do we need elavorate license costing $4000 for a café to set up tables on a street and allow drinking?
you think kids don't see drinking all over? like AT HOME?
regulate the harmful conduct not the drinking or smoking per se.
@17 I doubt this problem is encountered often enough to justify creating a whole new set of laws, reguations, tickets that will be selectively imposed, judges making a living off managing fine reduction programs and holding hearings on your latest payment of the fine under a plan etc. as you could have just STEPPED BACK five steps and allowed nature to do its thing which is it dissipates smoke. and how dare you put asthmatic kids on a public street where there are CAR FUMES ALL OVER, right?
Meanwhile if the City is going to be preventing this back lash to keep this law in place and the feds out - its only sensible some of the fines go to the City to pay for it.
they're afraid to enforce their laws today, when under fed law every single medical mj operations is one gigantic criminal conspiracy.
we're winning, and you want to stop pushing out of fear of backlash? what? btw what year do you think we will get a gop president? 2016? that's three years out. and then Hillary will crush ted cruz or marco Rubio. stop toadying up to the man, know when we have the advantage. as far as smoke in your face, you get smoke in your face from bus fumes, BBQ operations, damn, I don't like the smell of dog shit either but it's all over the place till they pick it up, grow up, it's a city, there will be 95% of seattle where you need nor fear a contact high.
Personally, I think the rules that apply to the smoking ban (keep it away from open windows or air intakes, generally not okay to smoke inside) should guide rules for pot smoking as well.
And the factor that no law will solve is whether or not people want to act like assholes. Getting shitfaced drunk in a park, puffing a blunt on a crowded sidewalk, smoking a cigarette right below someone's open window...there are always going to be jerkoffs who do shit like that.
public pool
playground
bus stop
school
If the police and the city attorney begin abusing these tickets or creating a new revenue stream, we elect another city attorney or we pass another initiative.
This is what cooperation looks like. I'm sorry its not perfect.