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1

We can now spy on each other:

http://web6.seattle.gov/travelers/

Select Live Traffic Video in the lower right and pick a neighborhood.

I'm spooking 15th Avenue Ballard right now!
2
Wait - PRISM? Philly's defunct movies-and-Philly-sports cable channel? Phillies, Sixers, and Flyers? Ah, good old Prism.
3
While I am legitimately appalled by this whole shitstorm, I feel compelled to remind everyone... NOTHING ON THE INTERNET IS PRIVATE
4
NOW can we get the righties more concerned than just about the 2nd?
5
How do we know who to be believe? Where is the truth in all this? Christ.
6
Ahh, but aren't they required by law to deny knowing about the program?
7
Bingo @6
8
The weasel word in Microsoft's statement is "voluntary."
9
Just think of all the information they are now collecting on their cloud services, information they hold as a third party and which is therefore not protected by the 4th and 5th Amendments....
10
"Specific identifiers" could mean anything.
11
Starting with Windows 98, Microsoft was capable of saving to the local pc all the sites visited, every e-mail header and address, every attachment sent/received, every search, every filename downloaded, all cookies, full readable e-mail from hotmail accounts and more in three extremely well hidden files on the local hard drive. So hidden you literally weren't capable of finding them from within Windows itself and a lot of voodoo to find and clean out (50 ish megs of space was a lot back then). I assume these days (like #9) they pipe directly to their servers.

How the late 70's/80's BC pop band PRISM became involved, I have no clue.
12
But they only spy on foreigners, right?

As a representative of all non-Americans; I don't care.
13
@6: No.
14
There are so many escapes in that statement I don't really think you can make a judge either way.They don't state whether or not they would have considered PRISM legally binding. Identifiers could mean literally anything, e.g. "people who live in the U.S." The last sentence doesn't state whether or not they consider PRISM as being broader than the undefined criteria they set out in the first two sentences.
15
And yet their new console system has an 'always on' kinect that requires the system to be always online to play games or watch TV + their user agreement demands to accept terms in which you allow microsoft to record video and audio of you at any time to be used or sent to anyone (NSA, Youtube, who knows) for any reason.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure, they arent involved in PRISM. Also, they would never lie about it if they were!
16
So even though Apple is doing the same thing as Microsoft, for some reason Goldy is going to once again give Apple a free pass, while attacking Microsoft in his usual biased way.
17

U.S. Constitution - Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
18
Hahaha...I think the word you're stumbling on here is "voluntary" which is a lawyer speak way of saying, oh, no we don't participate in any program that doesn't actually exist - sure, the non-voluntary program that spies on all your junk continuously, we participate in that one.
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#15 I have a hard time believing you have seen the final end user agreement for a consumer product that isn't out yet.
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@16 Really? Please explain how this post is an attack on Microsoft?
21
@13 is correct about @6.

Both MSFT and Apple have no choice but to spy on you for the govt.

And they can't admit they're doing it.

But they are.

Please wait...

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