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It's all so horrible and apparently first responders were at the fire when the explosion happened.

And this tweet says there was a second explosion: https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/…

I would like to go back to cute picture of cats soon please.
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ELF retaliation against Operation Turban Cowboy. Put in the exact address in google and look at first comment. On anniversary of the waco massacre and mcveighs fertilizer event. Patriots are gonna be pissed.

West Fertilizer Co near Jerry Mashek Dr, West, TX 76691
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Jesus is clearly punishing Texas for failing to approve same sex marriage /westborobaptistchurch
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Isn't there some rule that conspiracy theorists need to wait 12 hours before dishing out the cray-cray?
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@2, since when does the ELF give a shit about the Waco Massacre? That's a pet peeve of crazy libertarian gun nuts, not hippie environmentalist anarchists.

Also, I have no fucking idea what "Operation Turban Cowboy" is, google only returns hits for a recent Family Guy episode called Turban Cowboy.

And finally, the comments on the google reviews page all seem to have been posted after the explosion. Every recent post says it was "in the last week" - even the ones posted 5 minutes ago.

You're a moron and an asshole.
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@2, go away.

This was an entire plant full of essentially the same stuff that Timmy McVeigh blew up OK City with. I can't even imagine. Glad I don't live in that town. Former town.
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This is a big deal. In the press conference with the sheriff, he wouldn't comment on media reports that 50-70 were killed by the blast. He also noted that an apartment building was skeletonized and that a nursing home was nearby. The photos on Twitter are terrifying. Here is an example: https://twitter.com/Richardpm903/status/…
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Here is a map. The plant is right next to a middle school. I can't believe they allowed a plant this dangerous to be so close to houses. A sex offender couldn't live this close to a school.
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first off; fuck off. secondly the first comment has been removed in last hour [due to flagging or whatever] Dude claimed responsibility; a comment off huff po sent me there. Who is crazy enough to post the first comment claiming responsibility for that? Oh but I guess I made that shit up to get attention. ANd; you obviously dont know shit about elf asshole; they're mortal enemy is the FAAAr right; the neonazis that bombed boston; WACO is sacred to those fuckers and ELF [or whatever this far left group goes by] is making the natural move on the board.
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Same response I had on Monday...

Jesus Fucking Christ
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@10: Well now it's clear. I mean, who on the Internet would say crazy shit and not be serious?

P.S. Thank you for getting me to google 'waco elf': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n_4cElSZ…
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@2. The Waco Siege ended on April 19. Same as the OKC bombings. If someone was going to do something on purpose, it would have been on that day. Oh, you crazy nutjobs.
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@10, so you are suggesting that ELF (astonishingly, considering that the government has not tracked down any actual suspects yet) happens to know for FACT that the Boston Marathon attack was perpetrated by neo-nazis, and is so certain of this that a mere 2 days later they went to some podunk town near-ish to Waco and purposely set fire to a fertilizer plant in order to make it explode and kill a bunch of innocent people in a convoluted, eleven-dimensional-chess act of retribution against these supposed neo-nazis (who I guess really love fertilizer plants kinda near Waco)?

That is literally the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I was totally wrong - you aren't a moron; you are as crazy as a rat in a tin shithouse.
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@4: Westboro Baptist Church is in Topeka Kansas. Please try to get the states you hate correctly.
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Delirian @9,
Texas has very relaxed zoning laws (Houston has NO zoning laws at all). They could build a land mine factory next to a day care legally if they wanted.
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Basically a munitions depot but with poorer safety protocols - who coulda forseen the danger?! Clearly it must have been an inside job.

Or Google the Bhopal disaster: 5000-10,000 killed by a chemical leak at a pesticide plant. Union Carbide also blamed sabotage to avoid culpability for the event. Yet we continue to cut regulatory oversight of industry in the name of liberating commerce from the oppressive clutches of Comrade Government. Trust me, rats shitting in your peanut butter is the least of our worries. Welcome to the jungle - ain't no amount of Upton Sinclairs gonna fix this mess. My best advice is to not have kids and enjoy the sunset before the strychnine-clouds roll in.
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@17 - I think you may have missed the point. Think less about the specific state, more about the kind of shit Westboro always says right after a disaster.
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@10, I'm really excited to hear more about your theory that all of human society is going to be replaced by nutcase commenters on HuffPo. Naw, not really. Go fuck yourself. Infowars.com is thataway. And don't come back.

@17, same difference. Have you ever BEEN to Texas? There's nothing between West and Topeka except 500 miles of patchy brown grass and one really big airport. Hell, you can see North Dakota if you stand on the roof of your car.

@9, well, the plant PROMISED everybody there wasn't anything dangerous there, which is good enough for the State of Texas. I'm going to guess that the neighbors are going to make whomever owns the former West Fertilizer Co., who appears to be a fellow named Donald R. Adair, wish he had died in this explosion. There could be a hundred dead by the time they get this sorted; it could even go off again. I wonder how on earth a town even survives a thing like this.
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The NYTimes page has the story under the fold, so to speak. CNN has the story as the lead, with footage that basically has the father's explosion video on repeat about 6 times in a row. Marathon? What marathon?

I can't stomach the thought of turning on the TV and watching the clip on orgasmic repeat.
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Okay, so the NYTimes has updated their page. It is a horrible incident, don't get me wrong. I thought of Bhopal right away, too. The above comment is a criticism of 24-hour news channels more than anything else.
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@21: To be fair, it wasn't dangerous until it caught on fire and exploded. How could they have foreseen this? On a related note, apparently hitting anhydrous ammonia with water makes it heat up and potentially explode if it in a confined tank. Considering that firefighters like to put water on things that are on fire, you might have thought the plant would have trained them on this--EXCEPT, since the plant was completely safe, why would they need an emergency plan or need to train firefighters? Here is what the CDC says about fighting an anhydrous ammonia fire:
A poisonous, visible vapor cloud is produced from contact of ammonia with water.

Ammonia dissolves readily in water evolving heat (exothermic), to form ammonium hydroxide a corrosive, alkaline solution.

For fire involving tanks, fight fire from a maximum distance or use unmanned hose holders or monitor nozzles. Cool containers with flooding quantities of water until well after fire is out. Do not direct water at source of leak or safety device; icing may occur. Withdraw immediately in case of rising sound from venting safety device or discoloration of tank. Always stay away from tanks engulfed in fire.
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A rational place would have massive, gravity-fed water sprinklers to take care of the procedures in @24's remark. But this is Texas, land of freedom. Yeeeee-Haaahhh!
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@25: The rational procedure would be to locate the plant far from homes. These plants blow up all the time, but usually everybody evacuates the plant and watches the fire from a distance. Occasionally one or two people get killed. The fact that the city and the state considered this plant harmless is the big failure here. How stupid could they be? This town is in the middle of nowhere, but the houses, a fucking school, and a nursing home need to be built up directly adjacent to a potential bomb? Whoever was responsible for this zoning needs to be tarred and feathered and then rode out of town on a rail. And anybody who had a professional duty to evaluate the risk of this plant (including the plant owners) needs to be thrown in jail for manslaughter.

I hope this town recovers. Maybe they can build an ammonium perchlorate plant in its place to replace the jobs that will be lost at the fertilizer plant.
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Reminiscent of what happened to my dad and his town when he was young: http://www.nwitimes.com/article_f11ae5fe…
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Jesus is clearly punishing Texas for failing to approve same sex marriage /westborobaptistchurch
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re: the "harmless". . .

"The Dallas Morning News reported that West Fertilizer had told the Environmental Protection Agency that it presented no risk of fire or explosion.

The newspaper said it had seen documents in which the plant said it stored large amounts of anhydrous ammonia, but the worst scenario envisaged was a release of ammonia gas that would harm no-one." - from the BBC.
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Yet, people will still fear nuclear power plants much more, despite the fact that no one has ever been seriously injured, let alone killed, by one in America.

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Houston has a homosexual mayor. So there's that....
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@ 2/10, at least LINK to your bullshit, so we can laugh at the illegitimacy and total lack of their credibility.

@ 30, yeah, because Chernobyl and Fukushima aren't possible here, and storing nuclear waste does not require absolute perfection and honesty from the companies charged with the task.

People are dead, Theodore. Did you really have to shit all over the post with your tangent?
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If everyone had a fertilizer plant, then someone would have taken it out and prevented that. We need to make fertilizer plants easier to obtain.
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@18 there are some restrictions in Houston. You can't build a titty bar next door to a daycare, but a land mine factory would be ok.
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In Missouri, UofM has had classes that teach industrial sabotage as a legitimate form of protest. Even Bill Ayers is teaching and lecturing in colleges. He likes bombs and sabotage.
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The good guys with guns should have really stopped this...
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In Missouri, UofM has had classes that teach industrial sabotage as a legitimate form of protest. Even Bill Ayers is teaching and lecturing in colleges. He likes bombs and sabotage.
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@37: What's your source? I call bullshit.
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fuck texas. "right to work" is also a right to get your ass killed there. and @37 eat a bag of fuck.
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I sure hope that kid, whose dad though stopping the car to video a giant fire was a good idea, recovers his or her hearing and can sleep okay at night.
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@32: Did I say anything that was incorrect, Mr. Comment Thread Content Officer?

How is asking for a realistic threat assessment when building such places close to where people live off-topic? Because no one cares that these places get built in neighborhoods, but everyone loses their shit when an incredibly safe power plant gets suggested.

But by all means, please do not stop claiming we should be more concerned about hypothetical dangers than real ones.
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@ 41, in January 2011, Fukushima was hypothetically safe. You're whistling past the graveyard on that point. And anyone who is sane (and not corrupt) would never have allowed a fertilizer factory anywhere near a residential area (or vice versa - who knows which one came first). But anything goes in Texas.
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It's worth noting, and I wouldn't even be remotely surprised, that the plant probably was there before the middle school. Little towns like this spring up around the industry, not the other way around.

It's not surprising to me that in Texas they'd be stupid enough to build a town against a factory that explodes. Because any sort of chemical plant can explode through a freak accident or even minor "appearing" mistake.
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Yeah. This week has been a total bummer.
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@40: It is very possible the Dad no idea it was fertilizer plant and just regular fire.
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@ 45, that's only possible, but not "very" possible. This is a small town - the chances that the man is a local, and therefore knew exactly what the building was, are much greater than that it was a guy just passing by. And although it's not 100% clear from this video, it appears that he was taping it from a back road, not a highway, increasing the chances that the man is a local.

That doesn't mean he could have anticipated such a huge explosion, or any explosion, as @ 40 thinks he should. But we don't need to invent excuses for him.
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@40 that was the first thing I thought too. Very brave young man. If I were there I'm confident that seeing that explosion and losing my hearing I would have been hysterical.
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@42: You mean the graveyard holding the zero people who were killed when the plant melted down? The tsunami killed 16,000 people. The power plant killed zero.

The current state of the danger? The WHO claims that there remains only a tiny uptick in the odds of certain types of cancers only for people who were very close to the plant, and none for people farther away than them.

I would rather live next to a nuclear power plant than any manufacturing plant or coal powr plant/mine. Anyone who knows anything about nuclear power and nuclear waste, besides lessons gleaned from "The China Syndrome" and "The Simpsons" would agree.
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@48: Not true. Two died at the plant due to drowning.

Actually, the Fukushima disaster is a good example here. The Fukushima units were isolated, so when they failed, the public impact was reduced. They also had an emergency plan that ordered the evacuation of the people before they released radiation. The two items of an isolated location and having an emergency plan can make up or mitigate for a lot of other fuckups.
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@ 48, yeah, I guess it doesn't matter that the plant can never be recovered, and that there's a nearby town people can't safely live in again. So long as nobody died! Because that's the SOLE measure of an industry's safety.
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@50: It is an important measure.

You are a pain to talk to. You see everything in black and white terms (I recognize this because it is a psychological condition) and automatically revert to extreme views (the black or white) when something is in between. Your critique would be no different if the nuclear plant was in the middle of town and there was no emergency plan.

It is useless to discuss industrial safety with you. I was comparing Fukushima comparatively to the Texas disaster, and all that you could do was flip your 'kneejerk' switch and start attacking me for pointing out how differences in an approach to safety can lead to different consequences. You owe me an apology.
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@50: Actually, I see that you were responding to T. Gorath. So I owe you an apology for attacking your post assuming it was directed at mine. Sorry about that.

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