News Feb 28, 2013 at 8:55 am

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I could probably love that vintage microphone in a less awful context. Goats FTW.
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Oh great, now my entire day is shot. I will be watching goat splicing and nothing else.
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Woodward must have a book coming out or he's reverted back to being a frightened little girl baby.
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@3 Those are not mutually exclusive!
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"So why is it that all of the big gay non-profits, from the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) to the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) – “Gay Inc.” – have failed to utter a word of support for Private Bradley Manning, let alone really campaign for him? He’s gay, has moderately high name recognition, and unlike any number of airhead celebrities, he’s actually done something to support social justice, rather than mined charitable causes for personal fame and fortune."

Discuss.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/02/22/b…
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@5: My guess would be that those groups run into enought hostility without hitching themselves to a man who may very well be found guilty of high treason.

Cowardly perhaps, but one can hardly blame them.
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@6: Sure, due process and a speedy trial are only for society's in-groups. After more than a decade of war, the only ones who have gone to prison are the whistleblowers.

Setting aside that Manning is standing on the strong side of the UCMJ regarding illegal orders, the question stands: gay rights are for the popular?
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I will listen to goat songs..with my sharp new red noontec zoros!
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@7: I never said it was right or just. But the world we live in hardly ever is.

Perhaps those groups do not see it politically the same way you do. Some people actually think he is a traitor, and his sexuality as completely irrelevant. I would hope those groups would step up, but it is possible they do not view it as a gay rights issue.

Or maybe being as their jobs and lives are contigent on those non-profits, they do not want to put the non-profit at risk by aiding a possible traitor.

As people with nothing to lose in the matter, it is easy for us to decree what others should do, but it is a more complicated matter when you have a dog in the fight.
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@5 The Bradley Manning proceedings seem to have dick-all to do with his orientation. In short, there is no hook on which “Gay Inc.” should hang their hat.

@6 "Cowardly perhaps, but one can hardly blame them."

Single issue advocacy is best when it sticks to it's lane.
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Don't you mean "Barn Jovi" or "Baaa-a-a-a-an Jovi?"
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@10: It must be comfortable to nuzzle up to Obama, who also lavished the prejudicial judgement in Manning's case: "He broke the law," said the highest-profile former constitutional law professor, pre-trial. In fact, it sounds like what nearly every gay kid goes through, except for the It Gets Better part. Again, are rights only for the popular?

Word to the wise: single issue advocacy is divide and conquer by the soon-to-be divided and conquered. Exhibit A: the gains of the early 1970's have been almost entirely vacated. How could gay rights be any different?
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@3 and @4 tied for the Woodward Wuss Win.
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Goat power!
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@12 Is a critique of Pol Pot somehow an attack on all Catholic school alumni? Was the treatment of Jesus an affront on carpenters everywhere? Must pharmacists everywhere rail against the treatment of Benedict Arnold?

I get that you're totally gay for Bradley Manning, but his being gay, hardly turns this complicated, messy situation into a clear cut for the gays or again' 'em issue, no matter how you analogize it.

I'll even cop to being something of an Obama apologist, but you seem deeply confused, as Commander-in-Chief Obama is arguably proceeding against Manning in this Court Martial.

Lastly, single issue advocacy isn't everything but it is a powerful tool for propositions that have widespread support across disparate groups, like the idea that gay people are people.

So, in addition to Bradley Manning, what else do you want in your pro-gay purity test?

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