Before you totally ridicule the gondola idea you should know that they are between half and a quarter the cost of a monorail. The modern ones run at speeds two or three times as fast as the one you're thinking about at Disney Land. Because they run continuously, there is no waiting for one to arrive, just walk on. It keeps you out of the rain, some of them are heated. They're quiet. I think these are great ideas for public transit.
Maybe when I'm not fresh out of the "pissed-off potato" stage of babyhood, I'll find reborns to be cute. Right now they just terrify me. WHO WANTS TO RELIVE THAT HELL?
Noy buying Pistorius' story: You would have to be a psycho to just fire through a bathroom door when someone you do not want to shoot is behind it, just because you thought you heard a suspect noise.
Not even a "hey, get out of there, I have a gun?" Not even going to ask your girlfriend if she is ok in there?
That being said, stranger things have happened. Still don't buy it though.
I would ride the fuck out of a gondola. As would a herd of the SLU employees this is being pitched to, so eager to live on Capitol Hill in the expensive fancy new apartments displacing so much of our existing housing stock. Is there a way to keep it from being a Tramway to Hyper-gentrification?
The problem with the monorail was that they were borrowing the money with what amounted to a sixty year mortgage.
I rode the gondola in Portland when it opened. It only has two cars that constantly go back and forth as counterbalances to each other. It goes up to their main hospital. The only drawback I could see was that the motion can be a little queasy especially right after it passes a tower.
@5, "Portland" is not an argument. Just because Portland did a thing doesn't mean it's a good idea or that Seattle should do it too.
The Portland tram serves a single customer, OHSU, at terrific expense. It also runs over mostly open waste ground, a freeway and so on; the route from Cap Hill to Belltown is through a congested area. What are the right-of-way concerns in this area? What if someone wants to put up a building on the tram route? Are there any obstacles already existing? It's not like you can draw a straight line between the two places and not hit anything in between. Belltown is a high-rise district, not an area of single-story houses or an industrial wasteland full of parking lots. As near as I can tell, the Portland tram is an extension of OHSU's park-n-ride lot; it doesn't genuinely connect two living neighborhoods.
It seems to me that Seattle already has plenty disconnected gee-whiz transit bubbles that don't really relate to the city.
Normally I dislike regressive taxes. But one of the best things we could do for the environment is double the gas tax. It wasn't any government policy that doomed the sale of Hummers and large SUVs; it was the price of gas.
It isn't a printer, it's a fabricator. The only reason it's referred to as a "printer" is because one of the first practical ones was created using parts from an inkjet printer.
It would be like calling all modern airplanes "flying bicycles" because the first one was built using bicycle parts.
@22 That's in large part because he and that ilk have made it generally politically impossible to be anything other than a deadbeat politician. "No new taxes" was the beginning of some truly blighted and blighting ideologies.
Gas tax? Fuck you, Legislature!
How 'bout raising the cost of tabs on cars that cost over $50k? or similar. Or, you know, institute a non-regressive tax structure.
Couldn't Obama go after all those tax under-paying corporations? I mean, soak the rich, please, but aren't corporations avoiding paying tons of taxes already?
I'm with Gorath on the Pistorus thing. (Not that our opinion counts for jack sh@t.) But if you are awoken in the middle of the night by a noise, you don't notice that your loved one is not lying in bed next to you? And then realize that it's probably her in the bathroom? Yet you have the wherewithall to get your gun?
That whole scene is fucking tragic.
@23 Saying that its politically impossible to make or even PROPOSE a progressive tax makes voting and sending politicians a useless task, and we might as well dissolve the whole government.
@26, did you miss the voting figures on the income tax that last six times it's been proposed? Even low-income people oppose it, even though it would help them. And it wasn't even close. Your desired progressive taxation is not possible AT ALL.
The will of the people has been heard, loud and clear, over and over and over: we want services, but we don't want to pay for them. Make them happen anyways.
@27 I only saw the last single time it was proposed. People feared it because it was a tax hike that didn't come with any relief for the bottom sector. The scare tactics of the anti-income tax propaganda were actually correct in saying that as soon as the 3 year time limit had passed, Olympia would pass on the hike to everybody without reducing any of our other taxes.
I honestly don't understand how people find newborns to be cute. Their faces are scrunched up and creepy looking. And I swear their bodies look like plucked chickens, big torso, tiny arms and legs. I still occasionally get mildly freaked out whenever I'm trussing a whole chicken.
And people wonder why anybody votes for Eyman initiatives.
Not even a "hey, get out of there, I have a gun?" Not even going to ask your girlfriend if she is ok in there?
That being said, stranger things have happened. Still don't buy it though.
I rode the gondola in Portland when it opened. It only has two cars that constantly go back and forth as counterbalances to each other. It goes up to their main hospital. The only drawback I could see was that the motion can be a little queasy especially right after it passes a tower.
What'd I say? Gondola! What's it called? Gondola!
The Portland tram serves a single customer, OHSU, at terrific expense. It also runs over mostly open waste ground, a freeway and so on; the route from Cap Hill to Belltown is through a congested area. What are the right-of-way concerns in this area? What if someone wants to put up a building on the tram route? Are there any obstacles already existing? It's not like you can draw a straight line between the two places and not hit anything in between. Belltown is a high-rise district, not an area of single-story houses or an industrial wasteland full of parking lots. As near as I can tell, the Portland tram is an extension of OHSU's park-n-ride lot; it doesn't genuinely connect two living neighborhoods.
It seems to me that Seattle already has plenty disconnected gee-whiz transit bubbles that don't really relate to the city.
On the other hand, I'd love a gondola that went from Cap Hill to Queen Anne and Belltown. Because Denny Way is the suck.
"Brothers celebrate lottery win by blowing up house"
Needless to say, the celebrations involved meth, bongs...and butane.
It isn't a printer, it's a fabricator. The only reason it's referred to as a "printer" is because one of the first practical ones was created using parts from an inkjet printer.
It would be like calling all modern airplanes "flying bicycles" because the first one was built using bicycle parts.
Olympia has a record for going regressive, hard. And, this is doing nothing to persuade me they'd do otherwise.
Gas tax? Fuck you, Legislature!
How 'bout raising the cost of tabs on cars that cost over $50k? or similar. Or, you know, institute a non-regressive tax structure.
Couldn't Obama go after all those tax under-paying corporations? I mean, soak the rich, please, but aren't corporations avoiding paying tons of taxes already?
I'm with Gorath on the Pistorus thing. (Not that our opinion counts for jack sh@t.) But if you are awoken in the middle of the night by a noise, you don't notice that your loved one is not lying in bed next to you? And then realize that it's probably her in the bathroom? Yet you have the wherewithall to get your gun?
That whole scene is fucking tragic.
The will of the people has been heard, loud and clear, over and over and over: we want services, but we don't want to pay for them. Make them happen anyways.
I honestly don't understand how people find newborns to be cute. Their faces are scrunched up and creepy looking. And I swear their bodies look like plucked chickens, big torso, tiny arms and legs. I still occasionally get mildly freaked out whenever I'm trussing a whole chicken.