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Also, call for the special-ed teacher to be removed.
And they find gay people offensive? I find the whole damn town offensive. Thank you to all those loving Christians for reminding me why I'd rather sleep in and watch football than go to their silly, boring weekly variety show. Who cares about their stupid tracks and verses when I can just watch how they live? That tells me all I need to know. Way to show God's love and draw the people in.
However, I find messaging the high school students on the page a bit creepy stalkerish. Maybe I'm too old.
Seriously. What's more offensive: holding a segregated prom because there are black people in your town, or declaring your prom segregated before there are black people to segregate?
Although, the high school does have 600, which at a guessed rate of 5%, there may be 30 gay kids, closeted and out. Or 8 kids in the senior class. So, I'm guessing that gay and/or bi kids are there, and I'm guessing the first ones came out recently. Which would make the above paragraphs moot.
Meanwhile, the mayor of *another* podunk town – this one in Ohio – resigned today because she was getting SO much flak from saying that she "didn't want a queer on the police department." http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/…
Meanwhile, the mayor of *another* podunk town – this one in Ohio – resigned today because she was getting SO much flak from saying that she "didn't want a queer on the police department." http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/…
Bonnie McCammon
Don't forgot about the meeting today at the first Christian Church at 1:30! We need to get as many parents and students there as possible to really make this a go! Come in through the back doors hope to see everybody there:)
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Are we observing a case of life imitating art here, in this particular instance the dancing ban being supplanted with ostracizing gays with a "Traditional" prom?
What frightens me the most about this all is that they claim their actions to be motivated by God's love.
In regards to the number of LGBT kids in Sullivan, coming out isn't exactly a new thing. There were several kids that came out while I was in school. Thankfully, it seems like it is becoming more common for kids to be themselves in Sullivan.
Nothing to say SLOG?
Might impact those Hollywood donations to Obama right?
Hypocritters....
The woman in the video is a special Ed teacher, Diana Medley, which is the Northeast School Corporation and her email is medleyd@nesc.k12.in.usf
Thank you for your support, we have to get this situation turned around for the kids and the community. It is unacceptable and disgusting.
Miranda Webster Hay
Homosexuality is genetic. It has existed in our species since the dawn of history, and predates every extant religion s well as every known extinct religion. It exists in nature in virtually every animal species, usually at around the same statistical rate.
If the argument is between something that exists only in our minds (christianity) and something that is hardwired in our genes (homosexuality), I can already tell you which one will outlast the other.
You cannot change my DNA. But I can change my mind. I might very well have grown up to be a christian. The decades of intolerance that religion has shown to me and people like me, as well as the insane idea that you can alter your DNA by praying to a phony god or muttering any other kind of incantation, has disabused me of all beliefs I might otherwise have had.
Do you knwo what the single fastest growing religion in America is? It goes by a few different names. Sometimes people will say they are agnostic. Others will say atheist. Still others will say they have no religion, or are unaffiliated. In all cases, it's the same. You are driving America out of the pews with your intolerance. And much like so many other religions that came and went before yours, your religion will become mythology very soon if you do not change. Jesus, Thor, Odin, Zeus... it's just a matter of time before they all wind up in the exact same dustbin.
Unless you grow the fuck up. Judaism has survived, and that's in spite of real attempts to destroy it, not just the fake "war on xmas" nonsense the christians cook up as part of their oppression complex. Judaism survived because it can change. The god of Judaism isn't afraid of being questioned, and doesn't threaten his followers with hellfire if they reject him. You could learn a few lessons from the Jews.
And if you don't... Zeus.
or their cocks.
Dan, here's the problem with your admonition for Christian "NALTS" to chime in and try to exert some influence: Those kind of folk don't even recognize other denominations as Christian. They're totally cock-sure that they're the only ones who know the right way to worship/live/believe. To them, others are just heretics and worse.
https://www.change.org/petitions/diana-m…
Great outcome there in Pomeroy, Ohio, with the mayor resiginig and the police chief and the rest of the department, as well as most of the town, it would seem, standing behind the cop.
Great to see some Sullivan people here. Hope they'll continue to come here and comment.
Yes, I hate hate, go ahead, hate me for it, I'll only hate that too.
K @65 -- we can't nuke the bad guys because there are so many good guys mixed in with them.
@students from this county: Good luck and thanks for letting us know that it isn't the whole town that is bigoted.
FYI, they are having bigot prom at something called the Downtown Gym? Is that a business? A city facility? Can one of the commenters from Sullivan let us know how to contact this facility so we can properly express our displeasure that they are hosting a hate gathering?
Write and respectfully ask FFB&T to deny service.
Romney 59.1% (4902)
Obama 38.5% (3191)
(by contrast, IN as a whole went 54.3% Romney to 43.8% Obama)
For the senate race though they helped kick Mourdock away from that seat:
Donnelley 51.0% (4134)
Mourdock 43.1% (3491)
There are counties in southern IL, IN, and OH that are way more conservative than Sullivan, at least if you go by voting results. Just sayin'.
"It's sad that this kind of thing happens in this day and age."
"This kind of thing" will always happen if we don't eliminate the poison of religion. Even the liberal "not all christians are like that" kind.
When you assume a supernatural world, that is a train of thought that does not have a basis. When you start from that, you will automatically lead yourself to a bad idea.
That sounds rather Jesuitical (like the argument in The Bachelors that Ronald Bridges' epilepsy is a sign that he never had a vocation because no epileptic can be a priest), though. And we all know the likelihood of Roman Catholic not being accepted as Christian.
If Jesus had had a prom--if ancient Jewish custom had included such a concept, and before you laugh too hard consider the Ruth and Naomi story which heavily implies sleeping with someone at the harvest festival was kinda what happened after all the drinking stopped--he would have made sure to include lepers, tax collectors, and anyone else hated and excluded by those fancying themselves the moral majority of the community.
Also, kiddies: "We love you, but we will never publicly accept you" is not a consistent message. That might be the reason you're having so much trouble conveying it. And if you read the Bible, you will never find Jesus saying "I love you, but I will never allow you to be in the same public gathering as myself. But I value you as a person, it's cool."
Once again we see the direct correlation between the extent of a religion's orthodoxy and the magnitude of its members' intolerance of those with differing points of view or who do not share their tenets, politics, mores, or lifestyle choices.
Yet another reason why religious dogma and public policy make poor bedfellows, and why people who promote religion-based intolerance, discrimination, and bigotry have no business working at a public school.
Well, haters eventually die folks, forget about them. Nice to see that the HS is standing behind the mixed crowd. If the holy cant stand it they can go dunk each other's heads in the water like on the weekend!
"..and we want you to kill yourselves."
Completed that for you. Because Jeebus's love is all about teen suicide.
I commonly hear these self-declared Christians say that they don't hate homosexuals, they hate the sin of homosexual sex. So if the queers would just stop having sex then they would be cool with it.
If that were the case, then why do they have a problem with homosexual couples who are not having sex? It is, I presume, because they confidently believe that the couple is having sex at other times.
So if they are so confident that homosexual couples at the prom are having sex and they don't want them there because that homosexual sex is a sin, then how is it different from heterosexual couples at the prom when they believe that sex among those couples is also a sin.
I'm not saying this well, but if they oppose same-sex couples at the prom because it would be a sin for them to have sex, then shouldn't they also oppose mixed sex couples at the prom since it would also be a sin for them to have sex as well (unless they are married)?
Am I all wrong about this or are they?
Well, haters eventually die folks, forget about them. Nice to see that the HS is standing behind the mixed crowd. If the holy cant stand it they can go dunk each other's heads in the water like on the weekend!
This is a great argument, and I think it would be interesting to see the contortions that a self-proclaimed chaste homosexual couple would cause them to twist themselves into... because you suspect, perhaps as strongly as I do, that for all their "love the sinner; hate the sin" rhetoric, their problem is the homosexuals themselves.
I'm suddenly imagining a parallel to the whole straight viginity-pledge Christian thing, with virginity/promise rings for gay kids and same-sex couples who are "saving themselves for marriage." And, gay virginity balls, where sons and daughters dance with their fathers and mothers.
Okay, okay... If you can stop the gag reflex for a second, let me say that it isn't so much for the gay kids themselves, or even their virginity (we all know these stupid pledges get violated all the time, by straights anyway), it's to exploit the hypocritical "Christian" attitudes. Put the kids on the same playing field, "morally," and then let's watch a few bigot heads explode.
I'll make the popcorn.
So all the bigots are self selecting themselves to not attend the real prom to instead congregate together at their fake prom.
Meanwhile all the normal people get to go to real prom without having to worry about being harassed by the bigots.
Talk about a win.
When I was in school if all the bigots voluntarily agreed to not go to the real prom I would have been thrilled. I may have felt safe enough to bring another guy as my date if that had been the case.
Please, all the gay hating bigots of the world, continue to self segregate yourselves away from the normal, decent people. I can't help but think we would all be much happier that way.
As for the Bigot Prom itself, I bet that it is a lame bust.
The school is having an all-students-welcome official prom, which is as it should be.
My guess? Lots of straight kids are going to go to both parties just because they want to go to two parties.