News Jan 16, 2013 at 8:46 am

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Why all the talk about assault weapons when hand guns kill many many more children? I think the answer is they are scarier but handguns are next on the agenda of well meaning but foolish politicians.
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Damn. Should have shorted Boeing stock last week...
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The NRA is the most immoral organization in history.
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Wow, that ad was stupider than I expected. Really trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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Chelsea, pls double check the child deaths figure - I'm a big fan of making sure we have accurate data to support our arguments, and the Slate tool you link to is showing 63 youth deaths (50 teens and 13 children), not 83.
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Maybe Maria Alyokhina should have waited until her son was older before pissing off her country's government.
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Thanks Baerwaldt. Fuck this huckster Hansen, fuck Ballmer, and fuck the outgoing mayor. Hansen's group can afford to overpay for a team they can fund the arena on their own.
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Yeah, your child figure is wrong. Probably throwing the gang bangers in the mix.
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I wouldn't throw in the towel yet - Boeing is still ahead of competition by years in composite production. And the reduction in fuel costs is potentially massive, somewhere around 30%. The Dreamliner debacle is pretty squarely on management's hands. Constant problems with all that outsourced production being unable to manufacture to specifications. There's also a TON of issues stemming from the composite materials themselves, which I believe have to be engineered with much lower tolerances than with traditional aircraft. Normally, machinists can use various shims in construction, which I guess just isn't possible with the composites.
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Oh good, more smug elitism directed at rural states. So glad I moved out of Seattle
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Hush! Ixnay on the em-eye-ixsay! You're going to ruin your presidential chances!
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@6: You mean practicing her natural right to free expression?

Or do you just think rights are only for certain people?

Are you happy to find yourself siding with facism, government oppression and injustice?
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@8

Yeah. Teen age gang bangers, sure. It's so obvious, no need to even verify it. Dead black teens are nothing to lose sleep over.

And certainly not a reason to address the gun trade. Or seat the head of the ATF so law enforcement can enforce the law.
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You forgot the part of the North Dakota story where all those men harass and assault the few women who do live there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/us/16w…
(if the link doesn't work, it's currently on the front page of the NYT)
So yeah, probably good call on not going there.
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@12: No, think about it. @6 has a valid point.
It doesn't matter what the cause is, how passionate you are about it, what the politics are, whose in power, and also things like skydiving and extreme sports. When you're a parent you think of those things and don't invite risks that might make your kid(s) loose one parent or become orphans.
My parents used to take separate plane trips on family vacations, for example, but I think taking it perhaps a little too far.
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And that includes having a parent in prison, I meant to say.
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@5, @8, the 83 includes the 20 from Newtown. "Since" was an inaccurate choice of words.
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@14: Thanks for sharing. That may be the best reason to offer yet, when one of my relatives repeatedly insists I should move out to that area for the pay. "I'm not desperate enough to sell my soul to Halliburton" seems to be wearing thin. "I'd rather my attractive wife not be living under the constant threat of rape" might be a little more compelling.
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@15: Right, why stand up for human rights if there are risks involved?

I hope you enjoy your freedoms and rights that other people risked (and lost) EVERYTHING to give to you.

People like you do not deserve freedom because you will not stand up for the rights of others if it is risky or inconvenient. But I would still die to defend your rights. Because I am able to put the needs of others before my own security.

Tyrants walk towards power on the backs of people like you and treehugger up there.
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Outsourcing, and unstable battery tech, is really the problem.

@3 for the insightful win.
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@18: Yeah the stories about the money make it sound tempting but no...
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@9, it's ALWAYS on management's head. That's what management is supposed to be for. Boeing used to have the best management in the world. Now they appear to be going the way of the car industry. Let's just hope it's the US car industry (which came back) and not the British one (slain by management in the 70s).
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You have to click on the link for Child to filter it.

There were a few in WA state where the parent left a gun loose and kids got killed. Also where the Dad was putting a weapon in car and it discharged into a toddler in a car seat.

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@23: There's been grumbling by conservatives about the machinist and engineering unions being to blame for the production delays - "see, unions reduce efficiency!" Which is horseshit. It mostly boils down to Boeing being unable to control its supply chain (Oh hey, turns out there might be unforeseen consequences in quality management when you outsource aircraft production to a hundred different plants in a dozen different countries...)
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@25, and the engineering for those parts, then pick a fight with your engineers in contract negotiations.

What could possibly go wrong?
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The Mafia family must have downloaded some fresh tunes, or made some scientific and scholarly journals available to the non-academic public.
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@27 They were involved in the garbage rackets. They probably weren't sorting the clean recyclables from the dead bodies.
Good thing Seattle's only mobster died a few years ago, leaving us free from the evils of organized crime!

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