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Big mistake to tell the whole world this early. Odds of miscarriage are way too high.
It's pretty ridiculous in my opinion, and it pisses me off. Like the fact that Mrs. Hernandez and I are in love and wanted to get married because we love each other is somehow an insufficient reason for marriage unless I'm knocking her up every year. Pardon us for taking our time to do things for ourselves before locking into a lifetime of parenthood. As @2 points out, it takes time to complete an education and build a career. Many if not most of the younger parents I have met face some pretty significant financial struggles, precisely because having kids precluded them from having the time and money to improve their economic fortunes.
We tell them they should? We? You maybe.
Why can't they have kids first and a career later? Why can't they simply make a choice, one or the other? You're trying to micromanage people's lives.
More importantly though, what is your preferred method for salting your womb, Cienna?
Personally, I have no problems with my premiums going to emergency rooms, therapies, and the like, but having a child is not medically necessary, or necessary at all. It should certainly not be the responsibility of the insurance pool to ensure you can make any life choices you want, whenever you want.
Also, adoption. If you want a child at any age, there are hundreds out there that need homes.
Health insurance premiums are high enough (and growing) without adding in a bunch of unnecessary and elective procedures. Especially one which is so expensive, and can take several procedures to get it to work.
God, it's sure hard to be a decent proper pc person isn't it.
So many rules.
So much to correct.
That bit about morning sickness is absolute bullshit.
But, as Hernandez pointed out, don't think that the "When are you going to have children?" routine happens exclusively to women. I'm visiting family by myself this year (wife has to work), and I'm fully expecting to hear that out of each of my relatives at least once. When she's with me, they feel more awkward about broaching the subject. When it's just me, they don't even hesitate.
BTW, KM has Hyperemesis Gravidarum and might spend her entire pregnancy in the hospital because of it. regardless of the ridiculous media coverage of her uterine activities, I feel badly for her, she's in for a really awful time of it.
@7 - the point is they should have a choice. Babies first, then career; or babies and career at the same time; or career first then babies. What I'm saying is that without making ART more accessible that third option isn't really an option for a lot of women because they age out.
Leering over the royal family is just entertainment for the common folk. They're happy to have a new character in their stories.
Amazing. Science discovered the cure for another ailment and everybody gets angry and goes into denial.
You're welcome anyway.
how dare you mock royal issue issues like that.
Off with your head!
If you're going to have kids, might as well just do it, there never is a "good time" for it.
*plonk*
For those under 50, *plonk* is how internet users of a, uh, certain age, plug their ears and say "la la la la la".
It's easy to see why this makes some women really, really angry. Not that anger can change facts.
Can't find a single study that says this is true. Show me one.
Also, Kate is 30, not 20. She's a pretty good age to have children and guess what? Just as any woman gets to decide when to have kids, so does Kate. Who waited, dated, married and is having kids.
Also, the correct answer to anyone asking, "When are you having kids?" is...when I'm ready.
For reelz? Man, that sounds like a woman who went through Ellis Island. I thought non-Mormon parents and grandparents who encouraged their offspring to breed had just about died out. Hard to imagine any woman who went through the feminist movement of the 70s saying to her daughter or granddaughter, "Hey, start blowing 'em out!"
Hey...I take that back. I was unfortunate enough to have to sit through a Married to Jonas episode a few weeks ago where fairly young Mama Jonas was going ape shit on her son (who'd been married less than six months) for not producing an 8-pounder by now. I would have told that woman (mother or not) to tend to her own life and issues - that starting a family (or not) is entirely a decision between the husband and wife. So, butt the fuck out.
Justified because in that instance it should be noted that she was living off her kids - not the other way around.
I'd say so but at least you are aware of the problem.
For example, if you want to retire some day, have a happy couple of decades, and then die in your 80s with a warm, safe house, with electricity, a sweet internet connection, access to good food, etc... it is absolutely necessary to you personally that children continue to be born to keep our society running. Producing food, providing emergency and medical services, keeping the infrastructure in working order - all of these things are going to be important to your elderly ass, and none of those things will be able to continue if people don't keep popping out babies. So spare us your smug "babies aren't a medical necessity" garbage.
The answer Is to make the workplace and society in general more hospitable for women with children. If the "when are you going to pop one out" (much like the "no abortions for anybody") crowd actually cared they would work toward that.
It worked when I said it to my parents, grandparents, and in-laws.
You are clearly someone without ability to add to a conversation in any meaningful way.
Do try to pay attention and keep up.
@17: "the point is they should have a choice. Babies first, then career; or babies and career at the same time; or career first then babies." Or, a career and no babies at all. No babies is also a perfectly valid option.
Not for Will and Kate, however. Although it certainly would have been a cruel twist if the royal reproductive organs had turned out to be infertile.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I must introduce you to my in-laws. All of them. Both my MIL's and FIL's family. Hubby and I were married quite young, but we had a LOT of things to take care of before we were set up and ready for kids. And then ran into reproductive issues which had nothing to do with my age.
I was harassed with some form of "when are you going to have a baby?" in every. single. conversation. with an in-law for over twelve years. I'm not exaggerating; after a few years I started keeping notes. Every phone call, every dinner, every holiday. EVERY. Hubby got the same thing if I didn't come to the phone. Eventually I lost my temper and screamed at one of them, and that was apparently the signal to back off, because I was "so touchy about it." Fuck off, you insensitive shits, after twelve years I'd be touchy about being asked my hair color!
So yeah, I really feel for Kate.
Additionally, some scientific evidence suggests that high hCG levels correlate to morning sickness, in which case a woman being treated for HG, as Kate is, is unlikely to miscarry.
I feel as though you must have missed something. I never claimed that pregnant women do not deserve insured care. I never said that newborns do not deserve insured care. I said that legally forcing carriers and members to pay for ART treatments is wrong because it is not even close to a medical necessity. It is a luxury. Which is why Doctors Without Borders do not go to war-torn countries to do artificial insemination.
Also, look up what "Male Privilege" is. It actually means something specific, it is not just a buzzword to throw into situations which you perceive are unfair. Because guess what? While many health insurance plans cover AI/IVF, basically none cover male fertility treatments. I have been working in the health care industry for many years now, I have seen it firsthand.
Therefore, your claim of "male privilege" could not be farther from the truth.