why not also ban the irish totems at catholic schools, and the viking stuff? the vikings enslaved people, we have a statue for a murderer at the marina. then there's the slaveholder names all around. like Washington State. Why do we celebrate that? then there's the use of the name Seattle, did chief Sealth give permission? then there's .....

Can we use a John T. Williams mascot?

@9 then make the mascot an image of an American soldier then, not of a generic, stereotypical plains Indian.

I love the "anti-political corrrect" right wing, bringing up examples of "white discrimination".

Hey you stupid pile of shit in a skull, let me know when we conquer Ireland and murder 99% of its citizens. Then we can talk about the novelty mascots.

hey dumbshit @17, we english did conquer ireland. duh.

as to the guy saying some things are obviously offensive and some aren't....nice eluding there. I am french descended, there are stores all over misappropriating french sybols as mascots and brands from french bread to croissants to french bakeries to french soup. This offends me. should they stop? I am against slavery, yet our state is named for a slaveholder. that should change? I am againts slaveyr yet all this viking worship aroun dhere seems to worship enslavement and rampage.....that should stop? what about the sopranos, not only is it a gross stereotype but look they are making fun of opera AND crime gangs two stereotypes in one! as for redskins, many cultures in the americas refer to skin color and it's not racist. ever been to latin america? la rubia. el guero. el gordo. el flaco. el moreno. la morena. la mulata tiene tumbao. I guess I can refer to skin color IF I AM TALKING SPANISH but not in english, is that it? face it, there is a logical incoherence to appropriating Seatlh's name for our city, while banning the appropriation of ...Braves as a stupid football team name...while thinking fighting irish is okay based on some presumed numbers test of imagined poll of irish americans...hey I thought human rights didn't depend on polls, right? all this combined with the fact we have plenty of REAL racist crap to worry a bout from the plague of vilence in neighborhoods that oh just happen to be peopl of color always, not white, to no voting rights for some by law to no voting rights for some by practices of the ohio secretary of state. thus, to point out that AT BEST this name crap is super minor trivial inconsistent racism moral display more than a real attack on racism, is a fair point to make, and if those not getting it can only say "ah, but we can tell what's offensive and what's not" then that just shows the utter moral and logical incoherence of being in a state named for a slaveholder in a city named for a native "american"
(btw, why isn't that term offensive too, aren't we appropriating hte name of an italian, mmmmm? and applying it to native americans? see, in the end it's all just arbitrary faux outrage claims) then acting all holier than though by banning names like the Braves. Braves, who cares? Vandals, who cares? fighting irish with a little green man, who the fuck cares, we have people dyin in the sudan and american citizens without marriage rights and some, yes, some, without equal voting rights. to fail to distinguish the substantial from the utterly trivial is at bottom, self aggrandizingly stupid, what zbig would call "stunningly superficial." we're supposed to be the logical ones, remember?