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Let's be clear - Rosen's comment wasn't about stay-at-home moms. It was about Mitten's wife pretending to be a stay-at-home mom. Shame on you for not recognizing the difference.
Although, to be fair, directing servants is hard work...
But the Democrats can use it if they want to.
Republicans value the choice that women make as long as that choice is to stay home and raise the kids.
If you want a different choice ... look at the legislation being passed by Republicans around the country.
And the core issue is that Mitt Romney is claiming that Ann Romney is an expert about women's choices. Is she?
This is much like the canard that a government budget is just like a household budget. Just because Ann is a mom doesn't mean she knows shit about how working moms in Peoria handle their families. Digging a hole in your backyard doesn't make you a geologist.
I think, instead of focusing ONLY on the way they don't respect choice (which is just as true of Republican women as it is men), we ought to keep pointing out how the Romneys and other wealthy families hire out the hard work of child care, house keeping, and cooking. They also send their kids to day camps, tennis lessons, and all kinds of other crap that keep them out of their hair for the maximum amount of time, allowing them to spend hours at the gym, spa, and "volunteering."
Rich housewives aren't hard workers at all.
"No, your career choice was to stay at home and manage the nannies, maids and cooks that raised your children for you."
Technically correct.
And it illustrates a more important point.
The other "working moms" have TWO JOBS.
a. Raising the family (this one does not come with a paycheck).
b. Earning a paycheck.
All moms are "working" moms. But not every job is the same.
And some moms are FORTUNATE to only have ONE job while many have to find a SECOND job to help pay for the expenses of the family that they're raising.
Ann Romney may be an expert on juggling nannies and cooks.
But most of the "working moms" have a different set of concerns. Like whether to take a day off work because little Billy is sick but that means a smaller paycheck and little Timmy needs new shoes and you don't want to be fired for taking too many days off.
No, it's about whether Ann Romney has the slightest idea what it's like to be an average American woman in this country, as her husband implied. She doesn't. She is the stay-at-home wife of a quarter billionaire. She's as out of touch as her husband is, and, if they can't get a handle on that, Romney will be the next George H.W. Bush.
Congratulations on backing a loser.
Can we at least agree on one thing?
Ann Romney did a GREAT job of raising FIVE children on only a millionaire's income.
Stay at home moms can always sell one of the extra mansions if they're short on cash, right?
the whole story just goes to show: democrats have to be ghandi, republicans can say what the fuck ever they want (as long as it's not blatantly racist).
So now that I’ve established my credentials, perhaps I can comment on this without offending.
Yes, it’s hard work raising kids whether or not you work out of the home, in the home, receive an income or not. Yes, it’s difficult. But you don’t have to specify that a working mom has two jobs, because it’s covered in the title “mom”. Some moms have little interaction with their kids day-to-day, but most moms are pretty involved, whether they work or not. Saying “non-working mother” does not mean a mother who doesn’t work doesn’t DO work or isn’t busy, it’s shorthand. Please, can we stop being so offended by saying stay-at-home-mom or saying that she doesn’t work? Yes, we get it, it’s a tough role. It’s difficult to be a working mom. It’s difficult being a stay-at-home mom. Working moms don’t necessarily work twice as hard as non-working moms. Now, can we stop trying to prove that we’re better moms than each other?
What’s not difficult is being a multi-millionaire mom. I don’t buy it. I will not accept that a millionaire mom has the same difficulties in parenting as other women. And any person who tries to say that Ann Romney is like any other mother is unbelievably dim.
Girls Rock! and roll.
"First Lady Michelle Obama--in what for her is an extraordinary move--jumped in to help with damage control on Thursday after a Democratic strategist said Ann Romney, the mother of five, "never worked a day in her life."
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On the Internet, anyone can make any claims that they want to about their past or current experiences.
So most people learn to disregard any such claims and base their evaluations of a person upon what that person posts. Just saying so that you won't be offended if no one believes your claims.
I should have said that she doesn’t get my pity. She’s had problems, sure, but she’s had the money to throw at those problems to compensate that most people cannot. She cannot relate to most other women’s lives. This doesn’t make her work as a mom any less valuable than mine. But it does make her a shit for not speaking up to point out that she knows she’s had a privileged existence.
It's remarkable how someone can see indisputable proof and dispute it anyway.
The Conservative Media is a talking doll. No matter what you say, the string gets pulled and out comes "Evil hippie commie liberals hate everyone." What they're doing is making it a mistake to say anything at all. Rosen handed them no sound-bites that weren't already warm & in the over. She said simply what everyone (with any clues at all) already knows: The Romneys are rich, privileged family that have no connection to the vast majority of people they want to be in control of.
Other than that, I agree w/ everything you said.
This not like fording a stream where you need to gun it to get to the other side, we're about to drive off a cliff.
Girls rock! even Ann Romney displays more intelligence in a 60 sec interview than then entire GOP president hopefuls have done since the start.
I grant you that Obama's stimulus worked to a limited extent, but should have been larger with real "shovel-ready" jobs and not admin or research projects. However our debt to GDP ratio cannot not afford yet another stimulus and certainly not Obamacare.
So you're not rich and you're gay and you support Romney. What exactly are his firm positions that you support? Tax breaks for the wealthy? Corporations are people? I'm just curious as to what makes someone a traitor to their own interests besides a muddled understanding of monetary policy.
"You could have had an abortion or gave the child up for adoption."
I think you might have missed the various bits about making abortions more difficult.
And the bits about contraception.
And the how there are a lot more unadopted kids than there are people to adopt them.
What were the exact policies that the administration enacted that exacerbated economic uncertainty? Are the related causally or merely a correlation?
You already say the stimulus worked, so I'm wondering what are the other policies you have a problem with that we can connect to the layoffs of a tanking economy that he inherited?
Enlighten us.
In regard to your last question, let's boil it down to the very essence of political philosophy. I believe the individual is more important than the state, and you?
"In regard to your last question, let's boil it down to the very essence of political philosophy. I believe the individual is more important than the state, and you?"
Huh?
"Corporations are people, my friend."
The abortion and contraception access issues are separate from what I was talking about, and I do think they should all be easy to get, though in the case of abortion I would hope rare in its use. Abortion is not a form of birth control and really ought to be a last resort.
Huh. How about that.
However, it sounds like you should really call yourself "Gay Dude Against Obama," since that's all you seem to talk about. But which specific policies of Romney's do you support? Pick one or all:
* Getting rid of Planned Parenthood
* Taking basic healthcare away from 30 million people, while increasing the deficit in the process (ending ACA)
* Adding a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage
* Allowing any employer of any religion to deny any healthcare whatsoever based on moral convictions; e.g., maternity care for unwed mothers (Blunt amendment)
* Copying the austerity budgets of Spain and Greece
* Shifting the cost of health care from Medicare to seniors (Ryan budget)
* Huge cuts in taxes of the extremely wealthy, vs. tiny-to-no tax cuts for everyone else (percentage-wise, not merely dollar-value wise)
It's fair enough to say that you are voting for Romney because you hate Obama that much. You wouldn't be alone. But still, I'm intrigued by your handle. What is it that you find so attractive about Romney in particular?
Shhhhhhit we ready to move out of Afghanistan and into Syria? Its the Republican economy that W and Dick wanted. I dont know a soldier or a republican who is looking for a job?
Sorry sweetie, but I will not enumerate them in detail for you here, nor should you expect me to. They'll come out as various topics are discussed on Slog.
I know plenty of people who are poor, and will always be poor, and KNOW they will always be poor, but believe that the wealthy worked hard and should deserve to keep everything they have and don't have any obligation to help anyone if they don't want to.
I don't feel that way, but I know lots of people who do.
- Adding a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage
Will never happen. It will never pass Congress let along 3/4 of the States. Although Romney may have implied that he supports it at one point, he really doesn't and was just throwing a bone to the nuts on the far right for political expediency.
"Sorry sweetie, but I will not enumerate them in detail for you here, nor should you expect me to. They'll come out as various topics are discussed on Slog."
Sounds more like you're planning some long term trolling.
It cannot be that difficult to post something substantive.
Unless you're a troll. In which case it would be impossible.
But, hey - fair enough. I look forward to your defense of any of the positions listed above (or others that I might have missed) in future Slog threads.
I imagine soon there will be a new commenter called "Feminist for Romney." Seems like the kind of desperate strategy the GOP might employ.
"Seems like the kind of desperate strategy the GOP might employ."
Hey! He probably has a family to feed and if trolling is the best work he can find then who are YOU to tell him that he's wrong?
@58
Just in case your employer is going to follow up on your posts I would like to take this moment to point out that my rates are very competitive AND I am able to correctly articulate Romney's various positions on the issues of the day. There's no need to pay for third-rate trolling when you can go with a winner.
It'll be interesting to see if the animal-lover vote comes out strongly against Mitt, not only because of the infamous dog-strapped-to-car-roof incident, but the recent news that one of his top money men once cooked and ate a dog in a public park: http://www.politicker.com/2012/04/12/rom…
If your background really is what you say (regarding your dead from AIDs boyfriend), then that makes you even more despicable. Based on your comments so far you've clearly become a selfish asshole since your "past"--know wonder you're so into an antigay sociopath like romney. I feel sorry for the idiot that would be duped into having any kind of a personal relationship with you.
Great to hear about how Democrats support the all free choices of women...you know, unless their choice is to stay home and raise kids.
cite another who'll say that stay-at-home moms aren't the greatest thing since American Exceptionalism. then you can use the plural.
And Gay Dude @55, you can't think of any. Ha! Nah-nah-nana, nah-nah-nana, heyhey, goodbye!