Not just the NYC market, but the most dysfunctional team in the NFL. But, apparently his style is compatible with the Sanchez offense. Still, the only way they could have found a more Sodom-like place for him was if the 49ers would have taken him.
I don't follow football all that much, but this seems like a bad deal for Denver. Trading away a young player who seems to have some potential and instead getting Manning, a guy who is certainly great, but it seems like his best years are behind him and he's prone to injury.
I guess they're only thinking of the next year or two instead of the next decade. Doesn't seem very smart to me.
@6: I think they've made the decision that Tebow's limited throwing ability does not make him their quarterback of the future, despite the miraculous comebacks he engineered last season. And the relatively low trade value that got for him seems to indicate that other teams were in agreement.
Goldy,
I just read the story regarding Payton's suspension. At first, I wasn't too surprised that bounties are paid in the NFL. NOT that that's an endorsement. There were or even are (?) bounties paid in other leagues. The NHL comes to mind. In an interview, Michael Vick smiled and noted he would be "flattered" if he was the target of one those bounties.
What I didn't know was the extent of involvment (both players and front office), the amounts of the bounties and finally the blatant lying by Payton, Williams and Loomis to cover it all up. This is one large-scale scandal for the NFL. I believe the punishment is just given the gravity of the situation. Tough break for the Saints' organization and its fans. But, bounties must not be tolerated.
Regarding Tebow heading to the Jets: That's a surprise. I believe it would have been better if he had stayed in Denver (Manning while talented is old by NFL standards, had a crippling injury and could easily be injured again). But, I'm not familiar with the money end of it. I wish him, Tebow good luck.
I am so glad the NFL is throwing the book at the Saints. This kind of "kill them" violence has got to go. It is ruining the game and ruining lives. More of this kind of crackdown, both on and off the field, please.
I call bullshit on the fines and suspensions. If people didn't want to see NFL players attack and maim other players, they wouldn't fucking watch football in the first place. And what do you call the astronomical salaries they command if not "bounties?" American viewers want bloodsport, and capitalism demands that the NFL deliver.
@12 - yes. All we're doing here is pretending that they're protecting an otherwise clean and sanitized game from vicious bad seeds. It's a load of horseshit, and I say that as a long-time football fan. All this does is throw a bone to the corporate sponsors who want to be reassured they're running their ads during a "family friendly" sporting event.
That said, anything that screws the Rams is OK in my book.
I smell a SNL skit (or digital short) in which Tim visits New York and gets lost in Manhattan in a maze of smut of greed, everywhere he turns he is witness to all sorts of evil, only to realize the true horror that he's actually in New Jersey, with a 8 month pregnant Snooki trying to seduce him in a reverse Pepe Le Pew (looney toons) scenario. The punch line being that Snooki isnt pregnant (fat joke).
@12 - Yes. Because whenever a player has to get hauled off the field on the little medi-cart, the fans watching are in total ECSTASY and will not stop their hootin and hollerin for nuthin. Yep, just like the NASCAR, the ONLY reason ANYONE watches football is to see the horrible rending of manflesh, the cracking of the bones, the tearing of the sinew YES. /satire
To echo agreement with others, this has nothing to do with the "bloodsport" of football. Injuries happen, sure. They are pretty bad when they do happen, but you will be surprised to know that it should not happen ON PURPOSE. A good tackle doesn't mean killing another player. This team took it on themselves to try to enforce hurting, not playing. They got what they deserved in my opinion, I hate seeing players carted off the field. It's horrible and should never be encouraged by the coaches (or players). The NFL did a good thing by really sending a message that this is not how to play the game.
Just because you don't understand/like football doesn't mean you can trash it and say it's a "bloodsport" and basically insinuate that players and fans got what they deserve. Could not be further from the truth. Ask all the guys/girls playing fantasy football how badly they want someone injured.
New York is a pretty simple town. Football fans don't care if their quarterback wears a cassock or a tutu if he can just throw the damned ball, lead the offense and win games. Tebow, with his 48% completion rate, stands a good chance of getting booed off the field.
This is the biggest NFL scandal I can remember because it involves a conspiracy by the entire organization to deliberately injure opponents out of the game. That is a big deal, it's potentially constitutes assault because injury is intended (I'm no lawyer by any stretch), and not only should the coaching staff and management by banned permanently from the game, but the ownership should be investigated and I can't see their defensive players won't be tainted by this. The best they can say is that they knew that there was a conspiracy to injure opposing players, potentially ending their career and depriving them of their livelihood, and they kept the secret.
As for our Jesus boy, he's just not that good. Never was, even with all those "miracle" wins on the last minute, against self-destructive or injury-plagued teams, after stinking up the joint for three quarters. Tebow had the fan adoration on his side, was drawing in the TV ratings, had had a memorable season, and the team still decided to replace him with an aging veteran on his sunset stage (legendary though he is) who may prove to be as fragile as a Lego sculpture. And teams aren't offering up the farm to get him. What does that tell you? Tebow is more hype than potential. He's no Kurt Warner. As a fan, I would hope my team stays away from him.
Yeah, enjoy THAT visual, SLOGers!
I guess they're only thinking of the next year or two instead of the next decade. Doesn't seem very smart to me.
I just read the story regarding Payton's suspension. At first, I wasn't too surprised that bounties are paid in the NFL. NOT that that's an endorsement. There were or even are (?) bounties paid in other leagues. The NHL comes to mind. In an interview, Michael Vick smiled and noted he would be "flattered" if he was the target of one those bounties.
What I didn't know was the extent of involvment (both players and front office), the amounts of the bounties and finally the blatant lying by Payton, Williams and Loomis to cover it all up. This is one large-scale scandal for the NFL. I believe the punishment is just given the gravity of the situation. Tough break for the Saints' organization and its fans. But, bounties must not be tolerated.
Regarding Tebow heading to the Jets: That's a surprise. I believe it would have been better if he had stayed in Denver (Manning while talented is old by NFL standards, had a crippling injury and could easily be injured again). But, I'm not familiar with the money end of it. I wish him, Tebow good luck.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201…
Still hoping that they get indicted for their criminal conspiracy.
The lord does indeed work in mysterious ways... (or at least has a heckava sense of humor)
THAT would send a message...
Also: DEAR GOD PLEASE DO NOT LET TEBOW GO TO THE RAMS THANK YOU AMEN OVER'N'OUT.
That said, anything that screws the Rams is OK in my book.
I smell a SNL skit (or digital short) in which Tim visits New York and gets lost in Manhattan in a maze of smut of greed, everywhere he turns he is witness to all sorts of evil, only to realize the true horror that he's actually in New Jersey, with a 8 month pregnant Snooki trying to seduce him in a reverse Pepe Le Pew (looney toons) scenario. The punch line being that Snooki isnt pregnant (fat joke).
@21 - Don't quit yer day job.
To echo agreement with others, this has nothing to do with the "bloodsport" of football. Injuries happen, sure. They are pretty bad when they do happen, but you will be surprised to know that it should not happen ON PURPOSE. A good tackle doesn't mean killing another player. This team took it on themselves to try to enforce hurting, not playing. They got what they deserved in my opinion, I hate seeing players carted off the field. It's horrible and should never be encouraged by the coaches (or players). The NFL did a good thing by really sending a message that this is not how to play the game.
Just because you don't understand/like football doesn't mean you can trash it and say it's a "bloodsport" and basically insinuate that players and fans got what they deserve. Could not be further from the truth. Ask all the guys/girls playing fantasy football how badly they want someone injured.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/13/9-th…
As for our Jesus boy, he's just not that good. Never was, even with all those "miracle" wins on the last minute, against self-destructive or injury-plagued teams, after stinking up the joint for three quarters. Tebow had the fan adoration on his side, was drawing in the TV ratings, had had a memorable season, and the team still decided to replace him with an aging veteran on his sunset stage (legendary though he is) who may prove to be as fragile as a Lego sculpture. And teams aren't offering up the farm to get him. What does that tell you? Tebow is more hype than potential. He's no Kurt Warner. As a fan, I would hope my team stays away from him.
When did the Dolphins move to NYC?